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Just a reminder that votes should be considered public, because anyone can gain access to them by either setting up their own lemmy server or moving to another federated service that displays them upfront (kbin/mbin)
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-docs/blob/main/src/users/03-votes-and-ranking.md#vote-privacy
Fuck all those cute boys gonna know I swoon for them thx for doxxing me you've ruined my life
Never assume anything you do on servers you don't own are private. In fact don't even do it then, encrypt that shit.
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Dang it I got rickrolled again?!
I thought you need a public key to read it or some sht, idr how pgp works
You do. That comment of mine, as is, is entirely worthless.
The sender (in this case, that would be me) needs to encrypt the message using either:
That way, the only people who can decrypt the message is a person with the private key that is paired with any of the public keys that the message was encrypted with OR literally anybody that happens to have the passphrase it was encrypted with.
I think I had encrypted that message using just my own public key, so as I said, the message is completely useless to anybody but myself.
Tying votes to accounts is pretty much required by the way activity-pub works; an upvote is basically the same as a heart/like on old Twitter and with federation it needs to know where the vote is coming from and where it’s going.
Piefed has an option to try to circumvent this by creating a second, “fake” account with no obvious connection to your own account and sends all your votes using that account. If the instance doesn’t have many accounts, though, it can still be obvious who’s voting.
As others have mentioned, other front ends or services can show the votes publicly to anyone who wants to see it. Even on other platforms that use a voting system one should always assume the votes are tied to one’s account.
Piefed stopped that actually and now instead have an option to not have your votes federate to other instance entirely.
How does the algorithm work then for hot and top?
The same. But a vote that does not federate will only have an impact on the instance where it was cast.
I'm not sure. Here's the post where it went live, with links to the lead up at the bottom. I guess just ask @rimu@piefed.social
Oh, I’d missed that update!
Literally everyone can see how anyone votes. Others have mentioned lemvotes already.
To be fair, I have a small handful of troll accounts that I tag and downvote whenever I see them posting. Sometimes they go on a posting tangent and I end up with a string of downvoting which looks bad without context
Now that lemmy has grown I've gotten a lot more liberal with the block function. Fact that it's right next to the reply button is nifty.
Users can do this too via the website lemvotes.org.
It's also a feature of Tesseract (but isn't as easy to use).
And tesseract is discontinued :(
That's one of the things that I don't like about Lemmy. But unless there's better service that's not centralized I guess I will remain here for at least some time.
I think PieFed has something to "fix" this. IIRC, they have a second account just for voting. You use your main account, but the random second account is used for voting
What if you voted but then un-voted? Is that visible?
A bot that reveals that behaviour to the community would be very helpful.
That would be helpful. The only problem is, I've found a person that is definitely a serial downvoter, but I can't ban them because they don't make comments. I guess I'll ask the admin to do it.
Call their behaviour out in the community?
It's a small, new community, which is why I know that they're doing it. It's blatantly obvious.
Voting is kind of lame IMO. I wish it would die with Reddit. Large or small votes, my feed always seems to still be what it is, and I don't filter by votes or anything like that. Don't pay it much attention other than to maybe acknowledge the person above me.
Actually if my local community subreddit taught me anything, I've often got more in common with the downvoted folks.