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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

This article is from 2023.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Please god let europe and the asian countries pick the chinese standard and leave the US sitting on its own it would be so fucking funny.

[–] Kite@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't have any G's where I live. Could we maybe just try to get everyone/everywhere at least basic coverage first?

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I have 5g but I’ll give you one of mine. Now I still have 4g.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The thing with new Gs is that they recognized and try to improve that situation. 5G for example includes low-frequency bands that allow to cover much more area with one tower, making it more feasible for less populated areas.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And yet I’m in a major city and often my phone says LTE.

I have not been impressed with 5G.

[–] sykaster@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

most consumers data plan isn't even allowed to reach 4G speeds, at least where I live in europe. the only "advantage" of 5G is more capacity for smartshit, and internet connected cars that upload live video footage from their like 4 cameras everywhere they go like a mobile surveillance station.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The main advantage of 5g was never really speed, but rather spectral efficiency. It allows the same speed to use less spectrum.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

National dominance of technology is bad for people, because Sovereigns want control and slavery over people. People benefit from cheap tech advance access, without any trickle down from the nationality of who profits.

5g equipment is all made in China, regardless of parent company ownership. There is no, afaik, extra surveillance powers compared to 4g equipment. Much of the speed/latency boosts of 5g futurism applications remains unpenetrated. I don't know of a 6g benefit that 5g didn't promise.

Instead of pretending that national security is for benefit of national subjects, communications protocols should focus on end to end encryption with supporting hardware, and include middleware encryption/decryption to add controlled layers to protect privacy additionally from rival intelligence interests.

In the end, consumers need to trust google or apple to some level, but open source, and different open source applications on top of the OS.

This outcome is impossible when CIA and other intelligence agencies are part of the standards process influence, but technical only protocols that ignore the oppression by default political context, support the oppression by default standards process.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Honestly - how much bandwidth and speeds do we really need? I'm optimistic over things like Briar.

I think maybe meshnets over LoRa and such are going to become more common for communication. Right now it's agriculture, hiking and doomsday devices, but maybe they will become more popular.

No one has full 5G yet, not our problem

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

6G works in Europe and Asia. We barely have consistent 5g in the US and are looking to go back to dial up.

[–] henfredemars 4 points 1 week ago

I still don't have 5G in my area.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

No! It'll start a new pandemic!!!! /s

[–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welp, it was fun while it lasted...

Now all international travelers will have to go back to the early 00s method of buying burner phones and calling cards to be able to make a call.

[–] Trimatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Something somethING ICE in bed with Telcos to deport foreigners buying burner phones?

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meh - just give your money to Musk for the satellite phone.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Dudes a pile of shit but a recent flight had Starlink and that was the first time I've ever actually had usable internet on a plane. I was streaming Plex on my phone from my home server while flying over the Pacific.