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[–] along_the_road@beehaw.org 42 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When travel reporter Zach Griff checked into The Pell, a JDV by Hyatt property in Rhode Island, he expected a relaxing stay with his wife and 9-month-old daughter. Unfortunately, he left on a sour note after the hotel charged him a $500 smoking fee following his stay.

The problem? Griff says he’s never smoked a day in his life, let alone in a hotel room while staying there with his family.

Griff, a senior reporter at The Points Guy, took his story public on social media after the hotel allegedly charged him the $500 fee based on readings from an air quality sensor. The sensor data was supplied by a third-party company called Rest, which claims hotels can easily collect fees from smoking events.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Why did he pay? Or does the hotel have access to his card and can charge whatever they wish at will?

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't that how the US does it?

You give your credit card and they charge whatever they want. Always found that very weird in the US.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 17 points 4 weeks ago

A lot of things are weird in the US

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago

It's supposed to be in case you destroy property.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 8 points 4 weeks ago

Or does the hotel have access to his card and can charge whatever they wish at will?

Of course they do. He had to use it to pay for his stay. Hotels don't take cash.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 weeks ago

The crazy part to me is how the sensors company advertises as a selling point how much "smoking fine revenue" increases with their product

[–] troed@fedia.io 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

(not from the reporter but another guest covered in the story)

charged $500 for vaping

Yeah I think this is where Rest's scam will come undone. While you could, in theory, claim you didn't know your sensors could make faulty detection from hairdryer use, claiming to accurately be able to detect vaping will not survive a technical inquiry.

[–] troed@fedia.io 23 points 4 weeks ago

Example (not specifically about Rest but vape detectors in general):

Several things can trigger a false alarm, including aerosols from cleaning products, emissions from cooking stoves in kitchens, and vibrations.

Spray-on deo, hair spray, baby powder, perfume etc are all likely to create false positives yet the hotels just charge instantly from a single detection event.

https://vapecould.com/blogs/news/vape-detector-an-in-depth-look-at-the-pros-and-cons

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 4 weeks ago

The article says they have a 9-month old, I've seen Dyson purifiers kick on due to baby powder in the air being a contaminant so that could also explain some of it.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

Chargeback time! I would 1000% make them take this to court, and they'd lose.