Avatar was made to lecture Native Americans about how their genocide was their own fault, but you seem to be using it as a positive comparison?
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Avatar and it’s sequel have some white saviour thingies going on. Granted. And James Cameron is a definite ass.
But cmon. The series, so far, is 100% anti-colonialism and anti-capitalism. It’s a “what if the entire planet said fuck the humans who’re destroying us” type thing. The trees, the animals, and everyone whose being colonized. And if you’re a soldier or a part of the western world (to bring it to earth) the only way to redeem yourself is by joining with the oppressed and betraying your own species (ie class). Maybe Cameron will fuck it up later. But he hasn’t so far.
And anyways, this isn’t a post about the Avatar.
The Creator is a much simpler movie about the Vietnam War told via AI. It has awesome visuals (cinematography by the guy who did Dune and Batman) + a score by Hans Zimmer. And it’s CGI puts every other movie made with a budget 3x it’s own to shame. And it’s an original story (even if cliched).
"I felt like I was 130 years back in time watching what the Lakota Sioux might have been saying at a point when they were being pushed and they were being killed and they were being asked to displace and they were being given some form of compensation," he said. "This was a driving force for me in the writing of Avatar – I couldn't help but think that if they [the Lakota Sioux] had had a time-window and they could see the future… and they could see their kids committing suicide at the highest suicide rates in the nation… because they were hopeless and they were a dead-end society – which is what is happening now – they would have fought a lot harder."
Blaming the Native Americans for their own genocide is pretty fucked up.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/18/avatar-james-cameron-brazil-dam
Yeah, this quote is awful and Cameron is definitely an ass. You want more proof Cameron is bad? Read up about the making of the Abyss.
It doesn’t change anything about the themes expressed in the actual movie/movies, which are genuinely anti-capitalist and anti-colonialist. I like how you saw no reason to try to provide any criticism of my actual reply. Have you even seen Avatar/2?
I also don’t understand why you keep wanting to argue again and again about Avatar, which was nothing more than a small mention in my post about a completely different movie.
I don't know if that is blaming Native Americans for their own genocide. It doesn't matter how hard they fought back, there was no possible scenario where they could have won and prevented the genocide.
The US saved itself time and effort by offering compensation to get them to leave, and the point being made in my view, is that at the time they convinced themselves that some compensation for being driven from their home was better than the alternative, but if they had knowledge of the future and the suffering experienced by themselves and their descendants, more might have chosen to fight to the bitter end.
And if you’re a soldier or a part of the western world (to bring it to earth) the only way to redeem yourself is by joining with the oppressed and betraying your own species (ie class)
This reminds me of the HBO adaptation of the novel of the north Vietnamese spy infiltrating the US, written by a liberal Vietnamese. Not too optimistic.
This para was about Avatar.
looks good thanks for the recommendation 🙏