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‘For those of us with nothing to fear, the truth can’t come soon enough,’ the actor shared on X

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 329 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Crazy how Spacey’s career abruptly ended, even though he was acquitted and/or found not guilty. Yet Trump, who has lost his civil sexual assault cases, is the fucking president of the United States and no one will do anything about it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 160 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You forgot about being a 34x convicted but not sentenced criminal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was sentenced, it's just that his sentence was ... nothing. Which of course is a totally appropriate penalty for a fucking felony.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago

yes, it is revealing how flexible the conservative soul is when it comes to corruption and perversion, while simultaneously being inflexible about things like compassion, charity and kindness.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Spacey would still be making movies now if he’d just preyed on vulnerable women instead.

Dustin Hoffman, Ben Affleck, Morgan Freeman, Ryan Seacrest all have multiple SA allegations that they were able to play down and keep working, but those were all from women.

Most homophobia stems from the fear of male rape, so the usual meninist/MRA crowd who scrambled to defend “innocent until proven guilty” for Russell Brand (3 upcoming producer credits) are nowhere to be seen when it’s Spacey.

(for clarity, this is not a defense of Spacey, it’s an attack on hypocrisy)

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only way I can lose is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.

-- Edwin Edwards

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ is that a real quote? It's accurate AF. Like, uncomfortably accurate.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How can you mention these people and forget Jared Leto? He's an actual cult leader.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only true thing Trump has ever uttered was that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose support.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That is so not true. He also said "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."

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[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 174 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't need your help here..

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Right? Like we get it, you're not in the files, and you want to remind everyone you were acquitted and found not civilly liable of your own sexual misconduct. But "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent," and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

But “not guilty” is not the same as “innocent,” and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.

Basically the courts don't matter and all that matters is public opinion? And this is where you launch into a "the courts are corrupt" and "the rich never get punished" or some similar BS?

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I mean are they wrong that the rich never really get punished? Trump and those 34 convictions that resulted in nothing already forgotten? Diddy getting a not guilty for the severe charges also forgotten?

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Kevin Spacey aside, you seem to be saying you don’t support the concept of “innocent until proven guilty.”

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Not when your remaining accusers dropped their charges against you after a few of them died in mysterious accidents after you put out a weirdly threatening video on Christmas.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

probably becauses hes into male minors. and not female like most of the pedophiles/ephebophiles out there.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's just a synonym for libertarian.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 19 points 2 weeks ago

That's so funny

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's a distinction some make, where pedophiles go for the kid kids, like prepubescent, where ephebophiles want the ones who have at least started puberty but are still kids.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Hold my beer, it's even more complicated

  • Infantophiles go for 0-5 (up until developed consciousness)
  • Pedophiles ~6-beginning of puberty
  • Hebephiles - going through puberty
  • Ephebophiles - after puberty but before adulthood
  • Teleiophiles - 18-late 30s
  • Mesophiles - 40s-60s
  • Gerontophiles - 70+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

Don't ask me why I know, I just like getting to the grit of things.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"My computer recently crashed and I've lost all my friends' email addresses."

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's more like Epstein specialized in girls

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, it's the one time he's guaranteed to not be named in a sexual assault case, so why not?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I know and agree with everyone’s anger toward Spacey. But, and hear me out here, if it means releasing the Epstein files, then so be it. Let the man speak. Once that’s done, he can go fuck right off again.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Somehow I don't think he'll be the make-or-break that determines whether the files get released.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted

[–] doublebatterypack@piefed.social 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's not worried because Epstein didn't traffic little boys.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We actually don't know that. We just know for sure that he and Maxwell trafficked little girls for a whole bunch of famous and powerful people who killed him before he could talk.

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Or if he beat it in court

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[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

In 2017, Spacey faced several allegations of sexual assault and sexual harassment. On October 29, 2017, actor Anthony Rapp was the first to accuse Spacey of sexual misconduct.In the following weeks, other accusers came forward, including actor Roberto Cavazos, filmmaker Tony Montana, Richard Dreyfuss's son Harry, and at least eight people who worked on House of Cards.

In the wake of these claims, Netflix cut ties with Spacey, shelving his biopic of Gore Vidal and removing him from the last season of House of Cards. His completed role as J. Paul Getty in Ridley Scott's film All the Money in the World (2017) was reshot with Christopher Plummer. Spacey has denied the accusations and was found not liable in a 2022 civil lawsuit filed by Rapp in New York. In a separate criminal case in London, he was acquitted by a jury of sexual assault charges in 2023.

For the people who know he did smth, but didn't know what. I had always assumed bit was paedophilia or smth. Gay sexual misconduct was not gonna be smth I would've guessed, didnt even know he was gay. But then again I know nothing of any celebrity's life.

With the number of people from just the house of cards set making the allegations, it feels highly likely he's guilty.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Those allegations began after Anthony Rapp alleged that Spacey, while appearing intoxicated, made a sexual advance toward him at a party in 1986, when Rapp was 14 (so it was pedophilia after all) and Spacey was 27. Rapp had also shared this story in a 2001 interview with The Advocate, but Spacey's name was redacted from publication to avoid legal disputes and public outing.

Spacey stated on Twitter that he did not remember the encounter, but that he owed Rapp "the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior" if he had behaved as asserted.

On September 9, 2020, Rapp sued Spacey for sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress under the Child Victims Act.

In the subsequent federal civil court proceeding, a jury found that Spacey did not molest Rapp and was found not liable on all counts, with Rapp subsequently ordered by the court to pay Spacey $39,089 for the costs of litigation.

Fifteen others then came forward alleging similar abuse, including Boston anchorwoman Heather Unruh, who alleged that Spacey sexually assaulted her son; filmmaker Tony Montana; actor Roberto Cavazos; Richard Dreyfuss' son Harry; and eight people who worked on House of Cards. The Guardian was contacted by "a number of people" who alleged that Spacey "groped and behaved in an inappropriate way with young men" as artistic director of The Old Vic theatre.

Jesus fucking Christ this is bleak.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Rapp had to pay Spacey thirty nine thousand dollars.

If you ever wonder why victims don't come forward, think about the humiliation, the accusations, the assumptions, the trauma relived and repeated and revisited and repeated again and again. And in the end, the law says "we won't protect you" and the court says "we don't believe you" and your abuser says "you owe me money."

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

it feels highly likely he’s guilty

It depends on what your charges are (and I know someone will only read one sentence of this and down vote me but please hear me out.) Is he a criminal? No. Not after the shit show that was his trial. His accusers were caught flat out lying so hard I doubt there is a judge in this world who would've found Spacey guilty. The guy was totally cancelled, no friends with the back against a wall but walked out free because the accusers couldn't come up with a story that didn't contradict basic, easily verifiable facts like dates for example.

Is he a huge, narcissistic slug with a short temper that abused his status to do unethical things? Yeah, I think so. I guess that was the reason he had no allies in any of this. His "friends" probably never really liked the guy and didn't think he was worth risking their entire careers for even if they believed him.

Why am I saying all this? Because it serves as yet another example where the court of the public was way too overkill because of some hearsay. The mob is more invested in their own individual feelings than the facts. "It feels highly likely he’s guilty" really hammers home what went wrong here.

Someone doesn't have to actually do crimes to be a bad person. I haven't watched Spacey movies since all of this just like I haven't watched Cruise movies ever since I first heard about Scientology. Seeing their faces gives me the ick and I don't think these guys deserve my support but that doesn't mean I think they're rapists.

That being said we both know why he probably asks for the release of the files. It doesn't matter if he's guilty when everyone thinks he is so this little PR stunt is a desperate attempt to be on the right side of something and make himself look less guilty no matter if the files are released or not. I have little pity for him but we can do better.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

he's mad wasn't invited to those parties and had to get his own victims

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He proudly proclaims that he didnt need any help to prey upon his victims

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Anything to ratchet up the pressure on that orange toddler is welcomed.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm wondering what kind of international incident this will cause. Who else is in there, it can't be just Americans?

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[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago

Soup be thickening.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

my personal objection.

releasing the Epstein's files will include people he wanted to target but never got anywhere.

however, it would be very clear that those people are innocent, and they're will be people in the files that were clearly diddling children.

Either the files should be released in full and the only consequence for people who casually met Epstein and never interacted with him will be some conspiracy nuts harassing them. or at worse censor the list for those names.

Also, just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients.

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"just because there isn't a file named "Epstein's client list.docx" doesn't mean there isn't info about his clients."

Exactly, this focus on a "list" drives me crazy. If detectives investigating a murder don't find a piece of paper with the victim's name on it in the killer's possession, they don't throw their hands up and say, damn he got away with it.

Epstein's entire business model revolved around having receipts on his clients, that's how he stayed out of prison for decades, and it's why they are covering it up now. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a supressed criminal investigation.

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