Wow that makes the pace of new feature development all the more striking.
this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2025
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It's pretty normal for new software to have a fast pace of new feature development, and for software that has established itself somewhat to have slower pace. Especially as fast pace means accumulating tech debt that you have to work on later
Yeah it's amazing
I think it all comes down to using python instead of Rust right?
While some will claim that, I personally believe it's just as simple as the dev(s) doing good work. Code practices and readability goes a long way.
Both languages have relative popularity, but both are easy to debug, easy to work with. Both are good at what they do. Rust has an edge with raw speed and python with its community packages.
Looking at both codebases, I can tell you Piefed is immensely easier to parse and potentially make changes to. Lemmy is very hard to get into. At least for me. Don't get me wrong, both are awesome, but Lemmy is significantly harder to figure out what is going on.
Source: 18+ year software dev here.
not quite. While it's true that rust has a reputation for taking longer to write and release in, green field development is a lot easier to work in than stuff that already has a lot of moving parts and places that you need to consider the affects of changing one thing to somewhere else.
That is definitely a strong factor.
Can I make a one-time donation?
One-time donations aren't properly supported yet, but you can discontinue your donation immediately after initiating the first payment.
Yeah that's something I've been needing to do for a while.
Kofi accepts one time donations.
You can do one-time donations via Liberapay. Just select the option to be reminded to renew instead of automatically renewing. You'll get an email that reminds you to renew when the time is up, but you can just ignore it.
can we say that it is insanely cheap?
for an online platform competing with the big social media companies a total of less than 500 per month is nothing.
want to know the cost per active user per month and compare when Reddit and Facebook overhead.
That's specifically development funding. The hosting cost/funding is separate on an instance by instance basis, most likely the majority of funding comes from whoever owns/operates the instance.
you're forgetting about hosting, administration, and moderation! Don't forget to donate to your instance folks
Y'all pay your mods?
No, although I guess I would hope that instances take care of their mods. Good point actually
Warms my heart that people clearly care so much about keeping Lemmy going 😁
I moved to Piefed because the Lemmy devs are pro-fascist tankies. I can provide proof.
can you provide proof?
https://lemmy.world/post/24798
https://fediversereport.com/lemmy-ask-you-anything-again/
https://sh.itjust.works/post/6776825
They responded to the accusations with the following press-releases, but I'm not convinced:
https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout
I might switch or have both Lemmy and PieFed profiles. When you moved to PieFed, was it possible to sync or import your data from Lemmy? Comments, posts, upvotes, etc.
You can import your Lemmy settings, which are the subscribed and blocked communities, instances and users, and saved posts as well
you can import/export the settings from lemmy to piefed.
(also tagging @BaroqueInMind@piefed.social)
There is an entire community dedicated to this at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works (see especially the megathread post with many linked examples), while other communities mostly have stopped talking about it since it is such common knowledge (therefore "old news" and thus off topic), but see also some posts in e.g. !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com .
I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I've ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.
Edit: also there is this interesting post: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531 .
I note that lemmy.cafe is one of the only instances I’ve ever heard of that is brave enough to defederate from all three of the largest tankie instances, despite the main devs of the Lemmy software also being the admins of some of those.
What does defederating mean?
A complete cutoff of all communication between instances (servers). Theoretically should only be used as a last resort, where the instance admins refuse to moderate their userbase, but in practice there seem to be several instances that contribute mainly negative (i.e. trolling) content to the rest of the Fediverse, in which case losing everything from them - all the good but also all the bad too - becomes worth it.
See also the "Nazi bar" effect: YOU may not be a Nazi, nor any of your friends, and you may meet separately like a quiet corner or back room, but if you hang out in a bar that becomes known for being friendly to Nazis, then anyone you invite to join you at the bar is likely to deny your request. The possibility of goodness of conversations with you in that case gets outweighed by the likelihood of bad interactions with the Nazis that they would have to pass by on their way to you.
Although in the case of Lemmy, it is not Alt-Right Nazis, but Alt-Left tankies, at hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml, and to a lesser but still very significant degree lemmy.ml.
Does piefed have an iOS client yet?
Voyager and Mlem have both recently introduced basic Piefed support, and I believe both plan to expand it in the near future.
Dont know, but why do you need an app when it is an http sandbox for the mobile site that already works in a browser?
Why does every fucking thing need an app? Just use the website. It looks and works the exact same way, but doesn't send telemetry to Apple or Google.
I would like to know this as well but you came across so strong here that I think you will never get an answer to this implementation of your question:-)
It's too bad most people, including yourself, are intolerant prudes and nothing will change towards a positive trend in your lifetime.
Perhaps I am... and perhaps you are too, and is that even wrong/bad, to have opinions about what we like or do not?
The world is as it is, not as we wish it. That said, power comes from realizing that and turning it to your advantage. I wanted to gently push you to consider that, but I may have come on too strong myself. Don't let me ruin your day!
Your de-escalation skills should be taught everywhere.
Thank you for your kind words:-)
Rimu really needs to hustle these days.
The Lemmy money is spread across 3 devs or so? And they have been writing it since 2018 or something. It's not surprising that they have more momentum and name recognition.
PieFed is new and on Codeberg. Especially the Codeberg thing, I like. It does lack a CI though. How stable is it?
It breaks all the time but usually only for a tiny bit of time.
It has a docker setup, so in theory a good ci could start with just making sure that runs. Then we get the nicities like testing, e2e, deployment, ect ..
Codeberg has been stable enough for my small usage. It does have a CI, woodpecker, that requires manual approval. I haven't used their CI yet
No money for tankie devs!
Look man I rlly don't like the tankies but I still think its okay for a couple hardworking devs to get by. They're not getting rich from this.
People keep acting like these people need to be boycotted as if they were Jeff Bezos or something. It's just some devs working on this shit out of the good in their heart.
I'd rather fork it. Rust > Python any day.
Yet the .ml stans say Desselines lives in abject poverty and "does this out of the goodness of his own heart". Suuuure.
That's split between him and Nutomic though. USD $4250 is €3,665.80 (as of writing this comment), divided between them is €1,832.90. That's not a lot.
I mean, it's equivalent to the minimum salary i guess. I think they're european, and in france the minimum salary is around 1800€ before taxes. That's not a lot in the absolute, but in the foss world, it is quite comfortable.
where do you live that 4k between multiple people is considered wealthy