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Americans have made a U-turn on immigration since 2024 election (www.politico.com)

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Fuck polling on human right issues. The civil rights movement was never popular in the polls. Even freeing slaves across all of "Americans" before the Civil War was never popular.

[+] floo@retrolemmy.com 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not in the rewriting of history way. The civil war was over slavery, however, the confederates shot first because they knew waiting any longer would have them loss popular support. Lincoln never openly stated his parties desire to end slavery until the confederacy left the union.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Lincoln never openly stated his parties desire to end slavery until the confederacy left the union.

It was more or less implied, slavery was a hot topic since the inception of america so much a 'compromise' was baked into the constitution. Abolishing slavery outright wasn't going to happen in an instance. But what Lincoln campaign on was essentially abolishing slavery for all new states, which meant future free state senators would quickly out number slave states, and the balance of power no longer favors the slave states, which means it was only a matter of time. Thats why the slave states rebelled. They knew their reins on america was over.

[–] Nomad 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Human rights shouldn't have to be popular to be enforced. But polling to indicate how popular opinion shifts as an indicator for politics is beneficial and should happen.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not arguing that.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even freeing slaves across all of “Americans” before the Civil War was never popular

Yay. America #1.

We need a bunch of more effective John Browns

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gonna have to find another scapegoat

Don't worry, he'll be able to make up another one and suspiciously fast too

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wanna flip a coin on whether it'll be Muslims or the Jews? And gays, obviously.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

chris rock on 9/11, starts a around 1:20. How all the weird white ppl came out overly patriotic.

[–] womjunru@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

He certainly was funny back then. His gang comments are pretty good. But worry they encourage people to join the “undecided” or “non voter” gang.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm scared of ALCRACKA!!

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I wonder if this has to do with the fact that probably for most Americans, it is not a number 1 issue. Now the administration as made it a big issue for everyone and in a way that is basically not acceptable to many of us and that they said they would not do during their campaign (Who could have known...). It is also kind of laughabe that on one hand there are people screaming about low birth rates, not enough workers, and on the other screaming about too much immigration. If birth rates are too low and there are not enough workers, immigration is a solution and it has always been a big part of the American identity. So has push back against it, and so has isolationism, and racism too. So I have more wonders about this then answers, but it is "interesting".

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

In other words: people are finding out the hard way what experts have been saying all along. Almost as if the experts might know a thing or two about what they're talking about.