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Witches VS Patriarchy

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[–] KatakiY@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ain't men. The patriarchy exists, sure, but not solving the problem at the core will just lead to more unjust hierarchies with a different gender on top.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Patriarchy isn't fixed by appointing female patriarchs

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Matriarch is the word you are looking for. :3

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really, since we're still talking about women holding a patriarchal position in a patriarchal system.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm. Does that make sense? I’m confused. I guess if we kept the same system, just had a woman in charge?

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Like, this is basically the mistake that "girlboss feminism" makes. just because you're putting a woman in a high position that formerly only a man could have occupied, you don't actually fix the oppressive system as a whole. the system of patriarchy is about more than just no women in high offices.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 3 weeks ago

Counterpoint: Thatcher.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

To bad women are no better. People are people and assholes want power.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then maybe let us prove it, for a change?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just to be clear, i do brlieve that for a better world we need nobody in charge.

But i really want to try my hand at ruining everything. i feel like id be better at it.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think overall it would be slightly better. I normally score a society by how safe the woman are, especially when they're alone.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

I agree that it would be slightly better. Not because women are in some way superior to men, but because more diverse groups in gender and culture perform better in almost any metric measured.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IME women in positions of power put in less misogynistic policies. Which would be an improvement.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The republican women congresspeople and SCOTUS justices perform exactly the same capitulation as the republican men in those positions... Murkowski and Coney-Barrett have both been outspoken in these last weeks about their support of the direction the country is headed.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, politicians maneuvere their supporters into key positions. Plus Trump doesn't appear to allow dissent

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't this just support the opposite of your idea though? Regardless of gender, politics is about power, and it rewards those who do what is necessary to gain and retain power. We wouldn't just be holding a lottery to randomly appoint women to positions of power - we'd be selecting for (in one way or another) the most power-hungry women in society.

My original point was that IME women in power put less misogynistic policies in place.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

usually one installed by a MAN, it ends up bad its called glass ceiling in some cases. its the case for many companies, aka X, or has gotten in a position of power through nepotism from thier husband or other. this allows woman to act as a lightning rod for criticism and failures while hiding behind said woman, which the man caused.

these are 2 things where woman are often seen as bad leaders, but if you look behind how they got there: nepotism/favors/connections or only electable when she is associated with a man(like with the clintons) or installed as PR shield, its actually still the mans fault.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

No one should rule the world. True liberation comes from realizing that it's the throne that's the problem and not who sits in it.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If by men you mean humans, yes, I say we give the Elephants a chance.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks good to me.

I'm down with having an elephant leader. They never forget and everyone likes them

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Absolutely! About time the patriarchy burned.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh... Uh.... Yeah. That's what... Yeah. Totally that.

Im not opposed i was just kinda hoping....

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

People who desire power should not be given power, regardless of their gender.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Same, girl.

Nobody should be running the world.

⩜⃝

i am so tired of men

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The era of men is over. Let's let the hobbits have a go at it

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

As a femdom fan, fully agree

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Ruining the world

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We got so tired that we elected a woman for president. Best. Decision. Ever.