this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
77 points (96.4% liked)

United Kingdom

5318 readers
143 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in !casualuk@feddit.uk or !andfinally@feddit.uk
More serious politics should go in !uk_politics@feddit.uk.

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Low Traffic Neighbourhoods, or LTNs, reduce traffic in residential streets, and improve access for pedestrians and cyclists with dedicated lanes, wider pavements and planters blocking off vehicle access.

Speed limits of 20mph are designed to reduce the severity of injuries suffered in accidents.

all 26 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So why exactly are there still Tories that have not been tarred and feathered and run out of the cities by the common people?

There doesn't seem to be even a single one among them worth having around.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

Here in Cambridge, the "Sustainable Travel Zone" was just torpedoed, killed largely by a curiously well funded "grassroots" campaign. The biggest public condemnation came from the Conservative minority on council.

In the end, it died because too many from the Labour/Libdem (mostly Libdem) majority flip-flopped on it out of fear of losing the next election to Conservatives.

This is what we get when we elect opportunistic cowards.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago

Sunak saying he has long term plans for anything is like the milk saying it has long term plans for the fridge.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

This is the sad state of tory policy. Car good, motorist good, pedestrian poor, climate bad

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've actually taken to only doing 20mph in residential areas anyway. Kinda makes sense around streets where you don't know whether kids or animals will just run out into the road.

[–] FatLegTed@feddit.uk 7 points 2 years ago

As any sensible person would.

Even if it's only because you don't want to damage your car you be careful wouldn't you?

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, more, faster cars are the answer to our problems. It worked out great for the USA! 🇺🇲🛻

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So as far as I can tell his new long-term "plan" is to not have any plan at all because there was a plan and now there isn't a plan.

Anyway why do we care what he says

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

He doesn't expect to be in charge long enough to make it worth having a plan.

[–] Mex@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

What a fucking stupid plan.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Rishi Sunak says he wants to stop "hare-brained" road calming and safety schemes, including 20mph zones, to end what he says is a "war on motorists".

He conceded that 20mph zones near schools "make sense" but said they should not be done in a "blanket way" - criticising the Welsh government's decision to drop the default speed limit from 30mph to 20mph for restricted roads.

Mr Harper also told BBC Radio 4's Today programme"we want them put in place where they make sense" such as "outside a school, or in a heavily built up area where you might have children playing, or where there's a particular issue with accidents".

But writing on X, formerly known as Twitter, shadow transport secretary Louise Haigh posted previous commitments by the Conservatives to LTNs, adding: "Whose hare-brained idea was it in the first place?"

The latest plans follow the prime minister's revision of his government's net zero policies, which delays the ban on new diesel and petrol cars from 2030 to 2035.

It also follows the Conservative Party's narrow byelection victory in Uxbridge, Boris Johnson's former seat, after fighting a campaign focused on local opposition to the expansion of London's ultra-low emission zone.


The original article contains 697 words, the summary contains 199 words. Saved 71%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So how much money did you receive again from car manufat?

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think this one is desperate attempt to gain some traction in the polls. They had a shock win at a by election over a green issue. Granted the green issue was very much a local issue and they only won by about 500 votes. But a drawning man will clutch at anything.

[–] j4yt33@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here in Oxford at least, LTNs have been poorly planned and while side streets aren't being used to go from one main street to the other, it has resulted in all the traffic being pushed effectively into two main roads, in one area onto one. What this has done is create absolute gridlock traffic at least twice a day, concentrating all of the pollution and forcing LTN residents to drive further than before just to get out of their respective streets. It's absolutely bonkers. Sunak like the rest of these Tory idiots can go disappear in a hole for all I care but I would definitely welcome a reversal of this LTN nonsense.

That being said, reverting traffic-calming measures just for the sake of being a reactionary Tory and opposing "the green agenda" or whatever they're calling it is still profoundly stupid

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, those effects are part of the intent. Make traveling by car worse while making other methods better, encouraging more use of the later.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Sounds like those busy corridors could use some trains and bike lanes

[–] j4yt33@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. It's still stupid because this also means that travelling by bus is basically impossible during peak traffic (i.e., when people have to go to work and would maybe consider taking the bus there). That only leaves going by bike, which is not pleasant in bad weather and as soon as you have to leave the city, you need a car