A place to post ridiculous posts from linkedIn.com
(Full transparency.. a mod for this sub happens to work there.. but that doesn't influence his moderation or laughter at a lot of posts.)
How does that math work? 90k hours with coworkers in a lifetime. And she's making the argument that we wouldn't want to be in zoom meetings for 90k hours, would we?
Who sits in meetings every single minute of their career? Surely there's actual work being done for the most of us.
Remember how clean the air was when most people were working from home?
But shareholder value is more important.
Good luck to this woman finding good employees. Good employees have a choice.
“Why don’t people want to hang out with me?”
"My only friends are people on my payroll."
"People don't want to hang out with me unless I pay them"
Unfortunately, there is no shortage of sadistic people like this who bond together just fine.
Does she think sleepless nights are going to improve mental health?
I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.
That being said, this CEO is stupid, loneliness is not cured by being forced to interact with people that I need to be paid to interact with.
I also realize that just because I find the office beneficial, does not mean I get to dictate how other people should feel about it.
I am in general a big proponent for going to go to the office, I am an IT guy, and I find I have more focus when in the office, I also don't want to associate my home with work, I need the physical separation and I find it to be easier to coordinate with others in the office.
Some people do.
The trick about remote work is not that it lets us all work from home, but that it gives us another location and we can pick our best environment.
I found a job that promises "work from anywhere in the country", and many people min-maxed their location for profit. They only have to match time-zone to ensure they're punched in during 'business hours' (and, for some, starting later in their day to synch with the home office is f'n awesome).
But they still maintain "hotel" spots, two of them permanent. People did find some days or many days in the office each week is their jam. Some come and go as per their current needs and best environment. One of my peers went camping, and did a server update over VPN over starlink over smores, and then put the laptop away for the weekend. He was proving he can camp while on-call.
Sometimes I like my view. Sometimes I need a featureless wall to cut down on distractions. I find what is best and I rock that shit. And that's what it's about: find your best space.
When the only space is Office Space, then there is no freedom to find that environment where you crush it today, and that needs to be seen as an impairment. Let us pick our time and place and - sun tzu - victory is assured.
I completely respect your position. Some people genuinely like the office life and it's totally fine!
Personally, I have never had any boundary issue with home being used for work. I have my own office room that is also my hobby room that I made as I like, so it's a very nice and quiet space, and I love working there.
Besides the obvious aspects of this post which are quite dumb, what that person misses is that by working from home I finish to work at 17 and at 17.01 I am free to go meet people. Cutting commuting time frees quite some time for personal life and not to mention working from home is associated with more flexible work too, like doing some chores during a break etc., which frees up even more time.
A completely sane viewpoint that respects the different needs and preferences of others? Weird.
"Hard truth I learned as a CEO: Sometimes you have to lie to get what you want, regardless of reality and facts"
Anyone who thinks more work gets done in the office is an idiot, or lying.
I could spend 3 hours a day on a train and do teams meetings in the office, or i could not do 3 hours a day on trains and do teams meetings at home.
I was paying £550 a month in train tickets before covid freed me
It amazes me that leaders don't get this. My office is filled with separate one-sided calls and it's unbearable. Furthermore I've not been in a meeting without Silicon Valley listening in in at least 5 years.
They do get it but they don't care. They want you to be uncomfortable and miserable because it keeps up the value of their commercial real estate portfolio .
Also tax breaks. Many large corpos negotiated city tax breaks for bringing a certain number of employees into downtowns. If those numbers don't meet minimums, the tax breaks go away.
Any we all know how much time, effort and expense a business person will go through to avoid paying $1 in taxes.
Time to go back to the office and have still all meeting online with extra background noise. Looking for a quiet corner to be able to hear others properly is great for my mental health.
Also the office life improves my soft skills, like:
It really builds character.
Your office windows can be opened ? Luxury!
After writing that I feel I may need to clarify that I mean actual physical windows in an office building, not some self opening Microsoft product.
This person probably goes to the office and sits in her own private room by herself, because she can't focus with the loud plebs on the big open office floor
This person arrives at 10, has a 1.5hour lunch, talks loudly around other people, leaves at 2 because needs to pick up the dog from the dog sitter, complains people are never in the office, only shows up 2 days a week if you're unlucky, 0 days if you're lucky.
I suspect this is mainly because almost all of the CEOs I’ve met are workaholics, and being “at work” is the only way they can self-validate.
And remember, most of them are dark-personality traits, which explains why they cannot understand why you don’t want to go in
"Hard truth" she just made up to fit her own narrative without recourse to facts.
Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone's jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.
Work is actually one of the worst places to get your social enrichment. You're significantly more likely to change jobs than cities and your innie is less likely to feel like your true self. Furthermore there's a baseline mental taxation of being at work that doesn't come with being in a social environment. And nobody's going to come up to you at a social event and tell you to get back to work.
Or go to a bar and say hi to people who are hanging around. Compliment someone’s jacket. Tell someone that their whole aesthetic is cool as fuck. Comment on the weather. Become a part of your local environment and interact with your fellow humans. Join a hiking or hobby group.
Nah, I'm good thanks
Ah yes. The lament of the middle managers with nothing to do. They feel threatened because it turns out they weren't needed after all.
I work from home, and my manager works from home also. He's not even in the same country as me.
Not all middle management has a thing for insisting people work from the office.
Every single one of my jobs in the last 5 years or so has stated that remote work has undeniably increased productivity and output, as well as general morale.
Many of them have sold all their offices so they couldn't even RTO if they wanted to.
For some reason one of them still keeps the 7 floor office building and even a receptionist and security guard...despite about 5 people working from there on any given day. But hey, whatever.
Yeah, when I'm looking for sound mental health advice, I ask a CEO. Doesn't everyone?
Yes yes.. RTO is all about restoring the productivity and mental health of the worker. Ignore the declining property value of commercial buildings. Tell me again who stands to gain the most by increasing commercial property value? Ah yeah that's right; Billionaires. Interesting, at the bottom of every social problem we seen to find a billionaire.
Where is this energy during lay off season? No issues witb potentially 90k hours of social bonding gone to provide better executive bonuses.
"Hi, I'm a shitty person who has an opinion that is self-serving. Let me tell you what I think."
I'm in the office right now, and 99% of my meetings are through Teams.
My favorite days to be here are when everyone else is somewhere else.
Being promoted to the C-suite causes brain damage.
If my next job is office only. I'm strictly only using a desktop PC. You can give me a travel laptop. But I'm never taking it home.
This person is a disgrace.
Lol, immediately revealing that for her work is only pointless zoom meetings. Real productivity there ms CEO 😑
I worked in the stupid open office space these assholes designed for years. It. Sucked. Distractions everywhere. I couldn't focus on anything. Now I get double the work done in half the time and I don't have a pain in the ass commute. The hubris of assuming what works for you will work for everyone is astounding.
Thank you sooo much for your very presence. We are sooo grateful for your wisdom...
Go fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike.
Linked in is a cancer.
Codie A Sanchez does a lot less work WFH, is what I took from this.
As a naturally introverted person, working remotely has vastly improved my social life, well-being, and productivity.
I used to burn all my social energy at the office, and when nights and weekends came around, I’d go into hermit mode to recover. Work drained me. Now I’m sitting on my social charger all day while I’m working, and I actually have the energy to see my friends after work and have much better balance in my life.
I’m fortunate to work for a company that let everyone decide what works best for them when RTO mandates started going around, and they get better work from me because of it. This CEO can get fucked.
This person is purposely being controversial for attention, they don't truly think this, nor is there any evidence productivity has gone down due to remote work.
Going into the office every day is a scam.
Honestly to a degree I see the vision but sadly the way most workplaces are organized won't improve your mental health either.
The majority of people I would benefit most from being in person with aren't in the same country as me.
LPT: when you're this incoherent it's time to reassess your meds.
Sleepless nights for whom? My employer? Ahahah
