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🚨🚨ALERT🚨🚨: STOP HAVING BABIES, THEYLL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING: Japan rolls out ‘last-chance’ efforts to curb population decline (youtu.be)

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do those efforts include making their work culture and society even a bit less corrosive to human life?

No????

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[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're gonna pay you to have kids that you're going to be a complete stranger to because you work 16 hours a day

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Koreans will get put up in a luxury hotel for the first year after giving birth and they still won't make'a da babies.

But I suspect a lot of that is simply the cost of housing and the free time to meet people romantically. I honestly think the sex industry in these countries plays a role in it, too. When we've commodified the process of love making to the point that men just drive in to downtown with a bag of toiletries and a wad of cash to stand in line for the privilege of hooking up with a C-list social media starlet... And women just... what? Become prostitutes? Save themselves for marriage to a guy that fucks prostitutes? Enter the service sector and become the subject of endless sexual harassment to the point that they all gross you out as a gender?

How the fuck does anyone in that country manage a romantic life under these conditions?

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Occupied Korea is far more of a shithole than Japan. There is no childhood there and people's lives depends on one single exam and if they fail or get lower scores than it's 16 hours workdays everyday. Why would anyone have kids when their life will only have suffering.

[+] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Our generation is the first to realize that having kids fucking sucks.

I've had the opportunity to foster twice in my life and both times are some of the happiest I've been. I'm gearing up for a run at permanent adoption in the next few months because I think kids are absolutely amazing and I want the opportunity to raise someone from childhood to adulthood in order to share everything about life that is good.

I've got friends who are in the teaching field, and they regularly give me some wild stories. But the worst things they inevitably come back on are the administration hurdles and the idiotic bureaucracies. The kids are always the reason they stay in the field. They love the kids, even the rough cut ones. They even like the parents, more often than not.

Having kids is an amazing, life changing experience that transforms you and gives you the realiest opportunity to connect with other people and transform the world around you. The fact that we treat it as some kind of luxury, rather than a fundamental part of life, is a tragedy that's reflected in the hollowing out of the nation.

[–] hi_communism_im_dad@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Good on you, comrade. Providing a safe and loving house to an adopted child that needs a family is something I deeply respect.

Being a dad has been the most fulfilling aspect of my life for a long time. I wish you the best of luck and nothing but joy.

[–] Theblarglereflargle@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I’d love to have kids if I could afford to properly take care of them. But I sadly cannot.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I don't have words this good to say but I just wanted to echo this.

I love being a dad. It feels like the most important and fulfilling thing I've ever done and I love my kid more than life itself. The only thing I'd change about it IS doing it under capitalism. Childcare costs, having to do a religious preschool because secular ones are even MORE expensive, my wife and I both having to work full time jobs (often with decent length commutes) and not feeling like we get enough time at home with him.

None of these are inherent to parenthood they're inherent to capitalism.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bro it isnt a "fundamental part of life", its just that you are a caring and responsible parent who understands the gravity of what it means to raise a child to adulthood and accepts it wholeheartedly

raising kids should not be seen as a way of finding meaning for the sake of finding meaning, its someone elses life in your hands, meditation, prayer, and shitposting also exist

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

raising kids should not be seen as a way of finding meaning for the sake of finding meaning,

Good thing he didn't say that then. It's a fundamental part of life because it literally enables the existence of future generations of humanity. Human life doesn't happen without parents. It's fine to not want kids, its not a fundamental part of every single individual's life, but it is a fundamental part of life as a whole, for the species.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk man he kind of implied it overall by saying:

"Having kids is an amazing, life changing experience that transforms you and gives you the realiest opportunity to connect with other people and transform the world around you. The fact that we treat it as some kind of luxury, rather than a fundamental part of life..."

[–] Aceivan@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hate this website sometimes. I typed out a whole reply and then clicked cancel accidentally lol

Anyhow, I can totally see where you would get that impression but I think you are kinda assuming the worst. I don't personally know anyone that thinks "everyone should have kids even if they don't think they want to" or anything remotely like that, and zifnab seems like a good dude, so I was more charitable in my reading. It was pretty clear to me that he was countering the increasingly deranged posts about how awful having kids is and nobody should do it by citing his own experience and those of people around him, not saying that that poster in particular, or "everyone always", should have kids. Just reinforcing that it isn't an inherently miserable experience, quite the opposite, for many it turns out to be very rewarding.

[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's not thanksgiving or christmas dinner, you're not by bf's christian parents/grandparents, why are you birthsplaning natalist propoganda at me?

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

birthsplaning natalist propoganda

:jesse-wtf: