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[–] DrWorm@piefed.social 83 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Mississippi is always the worst of any statistic

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, noted: New York is almost on par with civilized regions.

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That might be skewed as most of their population are in New York City, and more than half of the city doesn't even own a car.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's pretty much the point of the chart. Better public infrastructure decrease the deaths from cars.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or commuting accidents in traffic are rarely fatal.

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I understand this is largely due to Americans wanting to get drunk like everyone else but also having to drive everywhere.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And gigantic motor vehicles.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And terrible roads and/or regulations? I can't help but notice the worst offenders are conservative areas and those usually are neglectful.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The transportation departments of red states just funnel the monies to corrupt buddies and nothing gets fixed even though there is perpetual road work being (performatively) done.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And lack of pedestrian infrastructure, and..., and... We can go on and on at how baked into the cake these deaths are in the car cult.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

There are so many dumb regulations and circumstances that functionally push people to giant vehicles.

For instance: I replaced my 2016 VW golf base model with an electric F150 this year for a multitude of reasons. I got a refund from insurance (with the same coverage). None of this makes sense except that I'm less likely to be injured by other motorists in my 3.5ton truck. I found this depressing.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Thought it would be interesting to compare with EU, they published an article in 2023 (https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=630784) with the following data. This graph uses a number per 1 million inhabitants so divide by 10 to compare it.

Road accident fatalities, 2023 (number per million inhabitants)

[–] Coelacanth@aggregatet.org 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As far as I know Finland has the world's strictest driving licence, so I'm actually surprised to see it posting worse statistics than Sweden here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Sweden went insane with road security in the nineties (nollvisionen?) so maybe that's why.

[–] Tobberone@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sweden is as expected. 200-something fatalities for 10 million people. Norway stands out😃

It got me thinking about definitions, though. For Sweden every death during transportation is counted (including busses, heavy trucks and single accidents with a bike), while the definition my 2 minute googling found for Canada said deaths resulting from accidents involving automobiles.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

The way this chart is formatted is making me more angry than it should lol

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)

Victoria is that low cos they don’t fuck around when it comes to driving fines. The speed limit means limit, and they’re cracking down hard on drivers using phones.

[–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Victorians are some of the worst/dangerous drivers I've seen, but I'm not in Victoria.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I remember reading years back that Mississippi is the only state where it's legal for the driver to drink while driving (as long as they keep it below 0.08). Multiple defenders on Reddit said its safe because its still below the legal limit.

Couldnt be related, could it? Nahhh

https://dui.drivinglaws.org/resources/can-a-passenger-drink-alcohol.htm

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know much about Mississippi, but I know that in neighboring Louisiana, there are drive-through daiquiri places.

the fine print of the law says that the open container law is not applicable to containers with frozen alcoholic beverage where the lid is intact and no straw is protruding through the lid.

In most cases, daiquiris adhere to the “tape rule.” Most daiquiri shops will put a piece of tape over the straw hold on the lid. If this tape is removed or broken then the drink is considered an open container.

So a piece of tape counts as a "seal." They're not even trying.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (5 children)

America is more in the middle of the road when you look at the whole globe, and don’t just select a few counties with lower death rates.

https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-details/GHO/estimated-road-traffic-death-rate-(per-100-000-population)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Africa is currently the reigning champ for vehicle related deaths.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, but that does not make it any better, since the US should be compared to other Western developed countries. That is like people saying that the number of gun deaths in the US isn't that bad because they are worse in Ukraine or Syria, you know, active war zones.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it’s fair to compare like with like. Many African countries have poor infrastructure, inadequate enforcement of traffic laws, rapid urbanization, unsafe vehicles, and limited emergency medical services. Its easy for a Western country to look better compared to that, but is it a fair comparison?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, if you're comparing the US south, it might be fitting.

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[–] bier@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Netherlands has 4.19

The Netherlands is close in size to Maryland, and close in the number of inhabitants as New York. Also half of the traffic is cars and half is bicycles. It's pretty insane how bad Mississippi is.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I tried looking into why Mississippi was so far worse. Mostly just finding people self report texting and driving more there, infrastructure is shitty, enforcement is shitty, DUIs are high they recently just upped the civil fine of texting while driving from $25 to $100.

For fun I looked to see what Mississippi would be like if it was its own country, and do to GDP it was compared to Morocco and Kenya.

Car Deaths per 100,000

Mississippi: 26 Morocco: 17.29 Kenya: 28

Kenya is 4x as dense as Mississippi is though, so still hard to say Mississippi is safer than Kenya. It's just numbers

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

yes but whole africa is developing nations with ultra bad infrastructure like roads and intersections. You should be comparing USA to peering nations, like western europe or countries of the commonwealth. Unless you admit that USA is also third world shit hole

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[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

getting a drivers license in mississippi is basically show up to the DMV, suck a cock and drive home or what?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Mississippi has drive-through combo shops: liquor store / DMV / KFC.

Saves time on your way to and home from church.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 8 points 4 weeks ago

21 Mississippi, 22 Mississippi...

Count van Count

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Took a closer look to see if I was surprised by any correlation about poverty, and browsed away with the belief that the south is still a shithole... which might still correlate with poverty. I think kansas/oregon is the first entry that wouldn't be 'south.'

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Drinkin' beers an' drivin' yer trukk is a highly traditional pastime in the US deep south. Typically done in the middle of the night, in my experience, for the maximum probability of contacting the local wildlife or making friends at high speed with a tree.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 7 points 4 weeks ago

You can always count on Mississippi! I'm surprised Texas isn't higher, we drive like maniacs.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

New Jersey is too low. Serious doubts about the validity of this table.

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

It's comparing against total population, not driving population, so any amount of mass transit will greatly reduce this number

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Not surprised by SC, as a Canadian I had one accident in 40 years of driving, it was in SC, caused by a 17yo girl driving an old suburban or something.

[–] goldenquetzal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'd like to see the % of trucks vs cars for each location.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The south is killing it!

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