whats to watch. a bunch of un-empathetic sycophants pretending to have a platform or relevance to an audience already "not votin for a lib"
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It was even worse than you're imagining.
I dunno, I'm imagining them doing the Nazi salute to punctuate the end of their hate speech.
Watching a bunch of assholes "debate" (read: regurgitate canned talking points on cue) who are only going to lose the primary to a bigger asshole, who is even in the room, is kinda pointless. Especially when said bigger asshole already lost one general election and may well be on track to lose an other one., So, we could either watch losers who are losing to a loser; or, spend our time more productively. Like say, insulting said losers on the internet. Not a hard choice.
We need to be mindful that he can win the general election too. Lots of angry white racists out there and even more evangelicals.
No need to get white into it, racist is sufficient. Trump has plenty of black and Hispanic supporters. I don't know if they are all racists, but they are definitively assholes.
Yeah… he lost the general election, but only by a hair, and a LOT of work went into grabbing last minute votes.
The most dangerous thing you can do is be complacent.
We need to vote and we need to get others to vote.
Ya, while I was being flippant about it, I do agree that Trump has a very real chance of winning the General Election. I well remember the noise over polling in 2016 and Nate Silver's epic rant (he was right) about how the data should be looked at.
I'm curious to see how things shake out in the General Election this time around. And I wonder if Biden's Campaign will lean into Trump's criminal actions. In 2016, Trump's campaign pushed the "lock her up!" narrative over Clinton's email server. Now that we have clear evidence of Trump mishandling, hiding and attempting to hang onto clearly marked classified information (some of which is clearly SCI or NNPI), will we get choruses of "lock him up!"? At the same time, Trumpets seem to revel in Trump's crimes and prosecution as almost a badge of honor and/or an underdog fighting "the man". The irony of Trump pretty much being the definition of "the man" seems lost on his supporters. But hey, no one ever said politics has to make sense.
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Does this mean they eventually got "tired of winning"? Or are they now trying to win at losing too?
Demagogues always need to project an image of control, power and invincibility, reality be damned. I'd expect more of the same from them, and it's why it's important to keep pointing out their failures. By proving how weak and vulnerable they are, it helps to break the narrative they are trying to build. It's all about perception, facts are less important than belief. But, facts can be useful in shaping belief.
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I mean, they have nothing interesting to say, no policies to discuss, and are a black hole of charisma.
That last part is all that really matters in this case. None of them can make their insanity interesting to watch without the reality TV star around.
[...] lowest viewership since 2015
Hasn't there only been one other debate since then...? That's rather misleading.
lowest ratings since the first one a little bit ago.
Is the article only looking at presidential primary debates, or all Republican primary debates?
It also represents — by a significant margin — the lowest TV audience for any Republican presidential debate since the start of the 2016 cycle, when Trump first became a candidate.
Probably looking at all republican debates since 2015. In short, the lowest its been since Trump.
Why would you want to watch? They're all a bunch of losers and one worse than the next. They're the current failures that rose to the top.
None have compelling arguments or solutions and are only there to shitsling each other. Even monkeys at the zoo are smarter.
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It's Republicans debating against each other? Like aren't they all the same?
"I'm a piece of shit."
"No I'm a piece of shit!"
"Heh... that's cute. I'm the biggest piece of shit."
rapturous applause
Narrator: The audience was the biggest piece of shit, after all...
It is a championship of "Who is the most shitty politition behind Trump".
Listen to the difference between their opinions on Ukraine
Holy shit some of those are comedy gold! These assholes are on the same team which makes it even more funny!
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Nobody wants to watch a bunch of losers kiss the ass of an elephant who isn't even in the room (honorable mention to C. Christie who clearly does not kiss Trump's ass)
Chris Christie. Maybe the least smelly turd in the group. He still smells like shit and now the question is whether he's only trying to separate himself from the others while still planning to deliver the exact same steaming mess any of them would. Is he hedging his bet that trump is falling to the charges?
At this point, they all are counting on the chance that he won't be able to run for one reason or another.
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Couldn't watch it without a cable subscription or signing up for a streaming service. That's probably at least part of it.
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But didn't they watch in the hopes that Vivek would spit out some rhymes? Vivek rhymes with cake, you know.
Who?
They are all running for VP candidate but are too dumb to realize it.
They're well aware of it, it's why they're not really badmouthing Trump.
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Except we all know Trump will pick his VP during an Adderall fuelled constipation party on social media. So it could be either of these morons, regardless of their debating performance (I use those words liberally).
Or it could be Kanye.
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News media use to have a respectability solely by being the people carrying the torch. With every inch of our lives being saturated with what ever digital media we want to consume at any given moment the established news media has run its course. Not even mentioning all its faults and the bullshit it propagates. You had 50 years and we are tired of the show. Please cancel, do not renew.
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