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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/46890078

cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 223 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If Iran was holding a US citizen against their will and let them die in custody, we would drop a nuke on them.

I hope Canada takes the opportunity to punish us hard for this shit.

[–] Windswept@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get it dude, but the US citizen in Iran was a CIA agent fucking with the country.

[–] Windswept@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I wasn't really making any kind of judgement about it. I just read your comment and thought "I'm pretty sure that's already happened" so I looked it up.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno about a nuke. Maybe a stern glance in the direction of Iran. I know it's not quite the same since Saudi Arabia is our frienemy after 9/11, but this US administration's support is probably more based on skin color than anything.

Jamal Khashoggi

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It sorta depends on what kind of US citizen they are. As one example, US-Israeli citizens are precious innocents who must be protected at all costs, but US-Palestinian citizens are fine as collateral.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

No way, we haven’t given much of a fuck about this sort of thing for decades now

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Unless they are a Democrat

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, yeah but he probably just got here...

Checks notes

ICE noted Noviello had been a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. since 1991, after entering the country through legal visa status in 1988. However, it also said he was facing removal for being convicted of drug charges “as a non-immigrant overstay.”

37 years ago

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, at that point, he was more American than Canadian. The US government should have to explain either why he wasn't granted citizenship or else why he wasn't deported. Keeping people in citizenship limbo is just diet slavery, a disposable workforce. I get that's probably the whole point and has been for a while, but I also think it's good to call it out until enough people care to make a change.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

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[–] Bort@hilariouschaos.com 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

37 Canadian Years or US Years?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ironically enough he was arrested in Florida which is far enough away there's likely a real difference over that long of time.

Like "real" as in there is a difference. Not that it is in anyway significant.

I googled and apparently in the ~14 billion years we think the universe has existed, the north pole has experienced about four more days of time than the equator.

So like 37 American years or 37.000000000000000000000001 Canadian years.

I'm assuming American.

[–] Bort@hilariouschaos.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really wasn’t expecting real answer but this is probably the most perfect response I’ve ever seen

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, that's over the estimated life of the universe.

Our solar system is likely a third that age.

It was just the first example I got when googling it, and I didn't want to break it down and convert it to make it more accurate.

Even then, pole reversal are common (speaking of, were like 100k years overdue and inexplicable shit is going on under the antarctic right now...) so even over the life of the Earth you'd have to keep teleporting to each new North Pole.

But it's a good example of relativity.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, given the dwindling life expectancy of Americans, 37 Canadian years is probably somewhere over 40 American.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again, the same passive voice. The word they should use is Killed.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's archetypal passive voice since it doesn't change the target of the verb and uses state-of-being plus past participle.

"ICE kills Canadian citizen" switches this around.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Masked Gang Kidnap and kill Canadian citizen under Trump orders

would be a proper title

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“At no time during detention is a detained illegal alien denied emergent care.”

I guess that doesn't go for legal residents, like this guy was.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For them, immigrants aren't humans and do not deserve humane treatment. Who tf calls a human being an "alien"??

[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first definition of alien is "foreign", not "extraterrestrial".

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's dehumanizing language, nonetheless.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 61 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Canada now gets to pick one of ours. Fair is fair.

Any one. Anyone at all. Just pick >_>

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Are politicians on the menu?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's a difficult choice. So many good candidates. But we're still nicer than that, for now.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Only one?

/joke

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Anyone? Why let more innocent people suffer. Hand over those responsible.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

wonder how next snowbird migration is going to play out

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's already not good this year. My dad owns a condo in Florida and said a lot of the Canadians sold their condos in his complex. They just didn't want to deal with the extra immigration paperwork this administration added.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

But especially the paperwork in the gulags.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This comment pisses me off so much.

Are you serious? Paperwork? That's what your dad thinks Canadians are concerned about?

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably since I'm assuming most of them are white.

Old white people basically never think they're going to be the target for government discrimination.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, because that's what they have said they are concerned about. Why doubt what they say?

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[–] BlackAura@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

My parents used to go down to Arizona. They sold their trailer back in 2018 (so just before Covid which was very lucky). They've done the odd trip down to the US (they sold because they wanted to go to different places) but plan to go out to Vancouver Island and other places more often now.

Family friends with a house in Palm Desert sold their place after Trump joked about Canada being the 51st state and plan to never go back down again. At least for as long as he is president.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, we’re starting to murder our neighbors. How great for us. Super swell.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Starting? I need to remind you Mexicans are US neighbors too

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

True. I apologize.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Follow the money. I guarantee a private company was involved and they probably do some kind of business in Canada. Make sure they're completely booted from the Canadian market.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Make sure to sanction their employees and their employees families too.

Ice kills foreign citizen

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is why, as a Canadian, I will not be going to the US any time soon.

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Fascist regime kills foreign national. Fixed.

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Canada, nows the time to reveal your secret robot army and take revenge. You have a secret robot army, right?

[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the last chance for the world-at-large to stop this. murica LLC is cooked.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Looks at all the previous lines in the sand, stretching far off into the distance

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