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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

They will learn to do everything they can to stop the implementation of ranked choice primaries.

And primaries overall.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would rather progressives become emboldened, run for far more Dem positions, and do a reverse Tea Party to drag the party back towards sanity

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's kinda what happened in 2016, but DNC resistance and progressives' terminal lack of spine (and billionaire money) killed it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Citizens United is the root of all evil, yeah.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Not likely, it doesn't serve their primary corporate interests

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

The Democrat establishment? No.

Democrat voters? Fucking hopefully, and the lesson they hopefully fucking learn is vote in the primaries

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Higher level democrats? No, not at all.

In fact, many of them will see this as a bad thing, and will double down on their establishment ways.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

No, so that's why we need to replace the Democrats by showing up for primaries.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forgive me such a silly question, but is it possible to... you know... decome a member of the dems and have your say?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who wants to join a party that is only good at selling weapons to murder Palestinians?

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like I've blocked you a million times.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Centrism: being angry at how frequently you take steps to ignore people to your left.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not angry.

There's only a few users i block.

I'm not a centrist.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

If you say so.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a game of Would You Rather and your answer is "screw you guys, I'm going home."

You can join the Democratic Party and push them towards your beliefs or you can keep pushing them further right, but either way it's only D or R for the foreseeable future.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's what Bernie's people did in 2016. Did you forget? They went through a whole process of trying to win numerous spots and make changes within the Democratic party structure. They got ratfucked by the DNC who shut them down. The DNC went to court and argued the party could ignore their own internal rules to prevent progressives from winning committee spots and taking over the party.

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a great argument for getting more progressives deeply placed in the party. Too much of the power structure in the DNC is old libs, only way to change that is to get more of us in place.

Would Bernie be more effective if he was formally a member of the Democratic Party, like how AOC is? I'm not sure, but it is telling he ran in the Dem primary instead of as an independent.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Centrists know this. As he said, it's a game to them. Their objective is to move the party to the right so they get what they want. Which is genocide.

🤣 No, They just learned to double down on rhetoric.

Whaaaa why do people want to eat and afford rent so bad, why can't they just ask daddy for money"

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

LOL! Good one.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago
[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Will the democrats learn

Will pigs fly?

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Nope. They'll run all their stupid milquetoast "centrist" candidates like usual.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

No, but we will.