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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bet he serves two or three at most.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Good behavior. And we must take into account his fine work in law enforcement.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Do you know how long ten years are? How much it fucks your life?

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For cp? Not nearly enough. And let's not even pretend this sick fuck will even do all ten years.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OP raises a good point.

They don't need punishment. They need help.

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Fair enough

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, and it's not enough for pedophile scum like him.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Ten years is a long time, and all of it will be cruel and unusual punishment. And in all that time I'd be amazed if the perp received even one session with a shrink or therapist.

[–] Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's always thousands and never just like 20. Crazy shit.

I think it's because that type of content is typically bundled together in an archive instead of just browsing the images on a website. There's also viruses out there that will just dump thousands of pictures onto your hard drive.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apparently they count each frame of a video as a seperate image.

[–] Gyrolemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Wow. Really?

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems a bit low considering what civilians get for such crimes.

Also, I am amazed at their desire to keep these libraries of felony charges. Does not speak well to their mental capacity. Maybe they should not be allowed back out since it seems they can't control their "impulses"

But at least he got charged... Catholic church been running pedo protection ring for at least centuries and nobody really ever got in trouble.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's really not. The sentences for CP are usually relatively light in general.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

No doubt some judge gets crotchety once in a while and deals out a long sentence, but what you're saying — "sentences for CP are usually relatively light in general" — matches what I've seen.

There've been, to my knowledge, two convicted pervs on the periphery of my life. One was a kiddie porn guy, who served a few years in prison and then got out, and we ended up employed by the same company. The other was an actual "lure a kid into a van" creep, who served a few years in prison and then got out, and sang in his church choir.

The legend of long sentences for perving on kids seems exaggerated.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guys, we should wait until the full story and the body worn camera's video come out! /s

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

There might be a drag queen involved.