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[–] Laser@feddit.org 99 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"My mum taught me how to treat a woman" is either dumb or creepy

Approaching and treating others like human beings regardless of their sex and gender? Too much to ask?

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agree this is way too gendered.

Teach everyone to behave compassionately in relationships, learn to argue, learn to collaborate, learn to cooperate. Good relationship skills are what everyone needs.

The strongly gendered part is the stand against the manosphere and stand against violence/misogyny.

Also, this isn't just about romantic relationship. I would have really appreciated if anyone I looked up to showed me how to connect with fellow guys/peers.

I agree, kids don't get taught a lot of really important social skills (regardless of gender.) A lot of parents seem to think that just putting their kid around other kids is going to magically teach them social skills. I admit, growing up with undiagnosed autism may have me biased here, but I also work with autistic kids and part of my job is to teach them social skills. Not every child has this resource, and although I do my best to guide the little ones I work with, I know that even neurotypical kids are thrown to the wilds, by parents who refuse to intervene in issues because "they have to figure it out themselves."

To a degree, I get it - kids need to learn how to solve their own problems independently, especially as they get older. But if parents don't provide any structure at all when a kid is young, where are the kids going to learn from? Other kids. Other kids who likely also haven't been given sufficient guidance on how to problem-solve social issues.

We need to do better for our children. We need to reinforce pro-social behavior whenever possible. I don't wait for my (work) kids to independently share their toys, but when another kid plays with something my kid really likes, I get ahead of potential issues by telling my kid, "I love how you're sharing your music box with so-and-so!" It makes a big difference in how they react, and goes to show that providing a bit of proactive praise now and then can go a long way toward building good social habits.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but we don't educate our children in a cultural vacuum. We have to teach our children to respect everyone, but when we educate boys we have to fight the culture of rape, so we have to be especially attentive to teach boys how to interact with women.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My point being that you should learn that women just like men are human beings and as such there is no special treatment in the context of the original tweet. The way it's phrased implies that there is a special treatment for women that needs to be learned separately from how to treat men. If the tweet was in the spirit of "she taught me that women should be treated with the same respect as men" I wouldn't have made my remark.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My point still stands. A general lesson about how to treat other humans is not enough, parents need to teach especially boys how to treat women, because the society will teach otherwise. You don't need to teach that men are humans; unfortunately we have to teach that women are too.

So yes, let's teach our sons how to treat women.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I think this comment frames it best. Not all "lessons" your children receive can be controlled so you need to make sure to account for the incorrect lessons they'll get from others.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I just do this real crazy thing where I treat everyone with respect, without consideration for their sex.

That's a taserin'

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

But... but... mah patriarchy!

/s

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gtfo you weirdo! Making war over perceived differences is the most natural human thing we've got!

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How weird, Sounds like a systemglitch or something.

[–] antbricks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I bet you don't see color, either...

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I bet you project all the time. Fun game.

[–] antbricks@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol did you just "I know you are but what am I"? Why not address the accusation? How is "I don't see color" different than "I don't see gender"?

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Stop looking for reasons to hate loser

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Based on the way a lot of people are behaving Im not sure anyone is being taught manners.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, is that what moms are doing? I have not exeprienced it. If anything, both my parents were overly worried by me hitting puberty. No "bees and flowers" talk either, they relied on my school providing that.

No, I got no relationship advice from either of my parents, other than their living examples. Which wasn't very good, as advice.

I also don't see why moms should give it to their sons, and dads to their daughters, exclusively?

I suspect what this guy refers to are tropes from song lyrics, which might come from a place of hardship, maybe a mother raising a child without a father. And now I think of it, I've heard women sing this also: "my mother told me about love..." So in the end it's about absent fathers, once again.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

My dad taught me how to treat a woman by being distant and disconnected with my mom.

So I do the opposite.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 1 month ago

Pretty much the exact same meatheads who daydream of all the grisly things they’ll do to any young man who even looks at their daughter with a disturbingly psycho-sexual fervour.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His mother taught him to go down on women?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Everything is sex obviously

[–] Skydancer@pawb.social 5 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of the time my girlfriend's father gave me a springblade "to match hers."

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

How to treat a woman... real good.

[–] DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this a mra community? I'm new and don't know a whole lot about the different servers and all, so it's a genuine question. Not trying to be snotty.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

No, this is a meme community and feddit.uk is a UK focused instance. I don't know why a bunch of MRAs are going off in the comments about domestic abuse, it doesn't even seem that related to the image posted.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Women have for millennia been taught that their role is to be subservient to men so this will get a downvote from me.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But isn't this the point? Given the long history, maybe we should teach people how to treat men. It doesn't mean teaching them to treat men as rulers, and it shouldn't mean treating them as enemies either. Maybe both boys and girls need to be taught how to treat everyone as equals, and not to expect certain things from people based on gender.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure. The original comment implied that no women are ever thought anything about how to treat men which is not the case even today. Even today, in religious communities, women are brought up with the idea that their role is be the wife of a man, bear his children and look after his household. I don't know what exactly the original OP meant but, at the very least, he seems unaware of this.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Admittedly I don't know much about religious communities, and I live in one of the most gender equal places I guess, so that was my intuitive context. But, I still think we should teach kids to avoid gender expectations, in any direction. There are ways that men are shitty to women, ways men are shitty to other men, ways women are shitty to other women, and ways women are shitty to men.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see how that follows, like the joke is the dad buying his daughter a taser because the other guy is being a creep, but that's your prerogative.

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Oops. Didn't properly see the bottom comment. I just saw the top one and reacted to it. I didn't realize it was the bottom comment we were supposed to agree with. (I read it but just woke up and didn't process it.) Changing my downvote to an upvote.