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[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The removal of h264 isn't going to go down well for people who use them for under TV boxes. Will be better off with the Pi4 or another device.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you explain this a little bit? I have been looking to buy a Raspberry Pi for emulation on my TV.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Emulation is fine, h264 is often used to codec video, like movies from seven seas.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Is software decoding not sufficient? My rPi2 could handle h264 through Kodi up to 1080p and I don't think there was hardware decoding then.

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[–] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
Pi 5 w/ 8GB - $80
Pi 5 Case - $10
Pi 5 Charger - $8*
UHS1 Micro SD - $5**

Total - $103

That’s pretty steep. I can get a Beelink with an N95, 8 GB of memory, and 256 GB of storage on Amazon, right now, for $127. Comes with intel quick sync, I can upgrade the RAM later if I want, and the SSD isn’t going to corrupt anytime I sneeze.

The Pi Pico and Pi Zero 2 W are still great but their high end Pis don’t make sense anymore. Form factor and/or that 6ish*** watt difference between the Beelink and Pi 5 have to be really important

* based off pi 4 charger
** based off Microcenter website
*** quick google search of both devices’ power consumption under load
[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then please, buy the Beelink thing so I can get a Pi 5 for projects. I already have chargers, plenty of SD cards, a 3D printer for an enclosure, and a box of 50 heat sinks of various sizes. And I'll be just fine with the base $60 model, so that's all I need to spend.

[–] a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m more confused than anything.

I didn’t have a lot of money as a teenager. My family had 1 computer we all shared. I couldn’t tinker with it, what if I broke it? Cheap Pis were the gateway to my lifelong computer hobby. Because of that hobby, I was able to get a job where part of my role is full-stack web dev. I don’t know what I would be doing now if I didn’t have access to cheap Pis when I was younger.

Especially in this economy, those prices just make me sad :/

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Pi 4 is still for sale, and it's in stock now for a change

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Better USB speeds, faster CPU, modular architecture, audio jack is gone, uses more power, has more ribbon ports for camera and display

[–] donuts@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I feel a little bit underwhelmed about Raspberry Pi 5 compared to the Orange Pi 4.

Would it have killed them to throw an nvme m.2 connector on the underside?

[–] Xianshi@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Curious to see what it can emulate with the new specs. I have the steam deck now but the form factor or the pi was always nice.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I guess it can now emulate an audio jack.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well one of the biggest hurdles to performance on the old raspberry pies with single core performance. So due to the fact that it is a slightly newer node faster etc etc etc it should definitely be better

[–] grue@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Well, it apparently can't do decent 8- and 16-bit anymore, since they're ditching the composite video jack for hooking it up to a CRT TV. Now it's only good for newer games designed for LCDs.

[–] llii@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

You can still solder an video out to the Rpi 5, there's just no port. So it's still possible if you really want to.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Whata wrong with running retro games on LCD? The only issue I can see is games that use a light gun.

[–] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You'll get at least one frame of added latency in the very best case when using original hardware on an LCD. Combine that with a TV that does its own processing and emulation and you'll have some noticeable input lag. And yes, I know most TVs have a game mode.

Interlacing when doing sprite multiplexing looks shittier on an LCD, too. Unless you do blending at the cost of an additional frame of latency.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They just don't look the same. They were designed to be displayed on CRT displays, so the quality is actually worse on LCDs. Just look up pictures comparing the two.

You can get a converter box for about $100 that makes it pretty close, though.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These days I'd much rather pay 8-bit games on a 65inch 4k tv via HDMI with shadow mask and (light) scanline emulation filters, than over composite video to a small CRT. To reach their own though.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the filters you're talking about are exactly what the converter I'm talking about does, if we're not talking about the same thing (unless you're talking about software filters)

[–] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I use a project called MiSTer for most of my retro needs these days, but there are definitely a bunch of other upscalers and things that can create similar effects.

Generally I find the quality of CRT emulation effects is much better, more accurate and more subtle than they used to be.

Some people swear by real CRTs of course, but getting a good picture out of a good CRT is usually an expensive (or at least time sinking) endeavor. It usually involves RGB modding consoles, or at least getting something like S-Video out. Many of us grew up with composite video, but it's pretty gnarly when you go back to it.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I am so excited for this new raspberry pi !

[–] mankeulv@lemmy.latrans.cloud 0 points 2 years ago

Aw yissss... About time!