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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 94 points 6 months ago (3 children)

World history without the Arabs, Mongols, Ottomans, imperial Japan? Even from an eurocentristic point of view that's too reductive.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“Damned Humans, they ruined Humanity!”

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago

"Damned Golgafrinchans, they ruined earth!"

[–] mienshao@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. Tell me you’re a white american without telling me you’re a white american 🤣

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The obsession about skin color in general gave it away.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago
[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Interestingly eurocentrists often refer to Alexander the Great as taking over "the world" even though he only took over Europe and the Middle East (which is what they saw as "the world" at the time). His troops abandoned him almost immediately upon entering what is now modern day Punjab (Pakistan/India).

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He didn't even take over much of Europe (just Greece), so that's a weird stance for modern-day eurocentrists, anyway.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Well, modern day eurocentrists are weird people.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ghengas Khan, the whitest man in history

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well of course, they wouldn't have picked John Wayne to play him otherwise.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

Kahn of the radiation desert.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, this is giving of some serious "i have never read a book in my life"-energy.

Did the world start 300 years ago?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 6 months ago

Even then - during WW2, imperial Japan was committing atrocities on millions of victims. Sure they eventually lost against 'white people', but I don't think that's much comfort to the millions of Chinese people who were killed by the Japanese.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Europeans figuring out how to navigate the deep sea before others starts centuries before then.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Ah yes. The history of the world certainly started with Europe.

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

When home is relatively cold and only borderline habitable, taking your chances with going out to sea is an understandable instinct.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 1 points 5 months ago

Polynesians were literal millenia ahead of even early European seafarers (I.e. Vikings).

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i mean, world history as of ~500-600 years ago, but yea

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Man, Hutus and Tutsis are going to freak out with this one haha

Also Indians

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago

Hutus and Tutsis

Look up who introduced those identities

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

American leftists and their guilt complex were once funny, but now shit is getting stale.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Half of Disney movies are about kids going against this very parental advice, getting said parents robbed/hurt/killed, and getting rewarded in the process

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Wait, if Aztecs thought white people are gods (unless it's a "Television would never lie" moment), do we have records of how they treated albinos born in their countries?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

It wasn't just pale skin. Honestly look at a picture of a Spaniard, and then look at a picture of a Mesoamerican. It's not exactly night and day, is it?

"The Spanish showed up and the natives thought they were gods." So, the natives had myths and folklore about their gods going away across the sea and would someday come back from across the sea. And then one day these big boats show up and what wades ashore but a man with strangely pale skin and strange colored eyes and a big bushy beard wearing metal armor and carrying metal weapons riding some kind of big hoofed animal. He's speaking a weird language you don't understand and HOLY SHIT did he just shoot thunder from that metal stick? Something like eighteen things you haven't seen before just happened.

What do you think was their first hypothesis?

How long do you think it took for them to test that hypothesis?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The Aztecs did not view the white men as gods. Depictions of Quetzalcoatl that make him look like a white man/the claim that they confused Cortes for him is pseudohistory based on Spanish depictions and lies.

Here’s an interesting thing I found on ancient Mexican albinism.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Glad you have a resource to refute this colonial era drivel / brain rot.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It’s something that Frank Dibble talked about in the Rogan debate. (The entire situation was a shitshow, but I learned a lot from listening to him dribble Hancock around like a basketball, and Professor Dave/Miniminutemen’s coverage of it)

Aztec and Mayan history tends to attract a lot of bullshit (and tend to be treated as interchangeable 😔). The Spaniards burned so much of pre Colombian primary texts that most information is filtered through people who wanted to portray those people as stupid primitive murderous psychopaths to justify their own primitive murderous psychopathy.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Ooh, nice find!

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

The veneration was severely overblown. They heeded them as gods in the same way that I heeded my abusive father as a god. And albinos probably just kinda died to the Central American UV. They might have been perceived as cursed.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 5 points 5 months ago

Turns out you can't simplify world history to one sentence without people getting big mad.

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago

Everyone knows the Comanches were nothing but peace loving kindness and happy joy.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Where my Clovis people at?

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

they sound american

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Recent world history, at least.

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