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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Ⓓⓘⓔ Elon. Get in your starship and chase your Tesla you fucking nazi

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 288 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't everyone just sick of his bullshit though?

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

US tax payers clearly aren't since they're subsidising his drug habit.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 243 points 2 months ago (1 children)

adding missing information and deleting errors

Which is to say, "I'm sick of Grok accurately portraying me as an evil dipshit, so I'm going to feed it a bunch of right-wing talking points and get rid of anything that hurts my feelings."

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is definitely how I read it.

History can’t just be ‘rewritten’ by A.I. and taken as truth. That’s fucking stupid.

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[–] maxfield@pf.z.org 155 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

What he means is correct the model so all it models is racism and far-right nonsense.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 107 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"If we take this 0.84 accuracy model and train another 0.84 accuracy model on it that will make it a 1.68 accuracy model!"

~Fucking Dumbass

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 95 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Why not both?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 81 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

adding missing information

Did you mean: hallucinate on purpose?

Wasn't he going to lay off the ketamine for a while?

Edit: ... i hadnt seen the More Context and now i need a fucking beer or twnety fffffffffu-

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He means rewrite every narrative to his liking, like the benevolent god-sage he thinks he is.

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago

Let's not beat around the bush here, he wants it to sprout fascist propaganda.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago

Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 69 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He's been frustrated by the fact that he can't make Wikipedia 'tell the truth' for years. This will be his attempt to replace it.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I elaborated below, but basically Musk has no idea WTF he’s talking about.

If I had his “f you” money, I’d at least try a diffusion or bitnet model (and open the weights for others to improve on), and probably 100 other papers I consider low hanging fruit, before this absolutely dumb boomer take.

He’s such an idiot know it all. It’s so painful whenever he ventures into a field you sorta know.

But he might just be shouting nonsense on Twitter while X employees actually do something different. Because if they take his orders verbatim they’re going to get crap models, even with all the stupid brute force they have.

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

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[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 53 points 2 months ago (17 children)

Whatever. The next generation will have to learn to trust whether the material is true or not by using sources like Wikipedia or books by well-regarded authors.

The other thing that he doesn't understand (and most "AI" advocates don't either) is that LLMs have nothing to do with facts or information. They're just probabilistic models that pick the next word(s) based on context. Anyone trying to address the facts and information produced by these models is completely missing the point.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Dude is gonna spend Manhattan Project level money making another stupid fucking shitbot. Trained on regurgitated AI Slop.

Glorious.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

"and then on retrain on that"

Thats called model collapse.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So where will Musk find that missing information and how will he detect "errors"?

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 17 points 2 months ago

I expect he'll ask Grok and believe the answer.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 42 points 2 months ago

Because neural networks aren't known to suffer from model collapse when using their output as training data. /s

Most billionaires are mediocre sociopaths but Elon Musk takes it to the "Emperors New Clothes" levels of intellectual destitution.

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

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Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

Typical and expected.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this is the same guy who said we'd be living on Mars in 2025.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

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[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 27 points 2 months ago

If we would talk like this, we’d end up in a padded room and drugged to kingdom come. And for good reason, I should say.

[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Elon should seriously see a medical professional.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How high on ketamine is he?

3.5 (maybe we should call it 4)

I think calling it 3.5 might already be too optimistic

[–] ZoteTheMighty@midwest.social 25 points 2 months ago

I wonder how many papers he's read since ChatGPT released about how bad it is to train AI on AI output.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago

How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.

[–] oliver@lemmy.1984.network 22 points 2 months ago

So "Deleting errors" meaning rewriting history, further fuckin' up facts and definitely sowing hatred and misinformation. Just call it like it is, techbro‘s new reality. 🖕🏻

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 22 points 2 months ago

That's a hell of way to say that he wants to rewrite history.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

which has advanced reasoning

No it doesn't.

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Yes please do that Elon, please poison grok with garbage until full model collapse.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Huh. I'm not sure if he's understood the alignment problem quite right.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 18 points 2 months ago

We have never been at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with East Asia

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