this post was submitted on 27 Sep 2023
105 points (90.7% liked)

politics

25585 readers
2946 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Just_Pizza_Crust@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is the intended result of dairy industry lobbying. Pizza is a vegetable and added sugar is healthy.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Delicious nutritious processed sugar! That's right this highly refined white powder that can't be found in nature is the healthiest thing you can eat! Buy it by the 5 pound bag and put it in everything. Put it in your morning coffee, your morning pancake, cover your morning bacon in it, and don't forget to dip that apple you eat every day in caramel! Make sure your lunch is covered in ketchup, which is also loaded with sugar for your convenience. Go ahead and have that milk shake too!

[–] olicvb@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

can’t be found in nature

well there's sugarcane, which google tells me is practically the same (so just as bad -.-)

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: most white sugar in the US comes from sugar beets. Easier to produce and process, I guess.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's so bad about corn syrup? It's natural. Corn's a fruit. Syrup comes from a bush.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It’s particularly high fructose corn syrup that’s real bad. I forget the specifics but the balance of fructose to sucrose is important to how our body processes it.

Oh, and the rest of the nutrients in fruit help slow the digestion of the sugars and mitigate some of the bad effects. But if you extract the sugar, it’s not so healthy for you anymore.

[–] Jack_of_all_derps@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

And it makes the sunset really pink, because of the air pollution! But the the main question is, is it worth it?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, thanks to all that marketing people even still think that milk is good for you (lol), even chocolate milk (rotflmao). Absurd. It's too bad that market forces have so much influence over everything, including notions about what constitutes health.

[–] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this not a The Onion article? I... ugh.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

Extinction level climate catastrophe on the horizon, better shill for the milk lobby!

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

Tom Tiffany needs to spend more time passing a budget and less time complaining about milk with added sugar.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Capitalism baby, you can buy for cheap legislative whores.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

“Let them drink chocolate milk with their cake!”

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Curious was the data say on the topic. I can see flavored milk being more appealing than unflavored, and encouraging kids to drink it.

Obviously added sugar isn't great, but what is the net effect on health, in regards to the community as a whole?

What are the alternative drink choices? Fruit juice? Water? Just white milk?

[–] eochaid@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The USDA wanted to ban flavored milks from elementary schools and limit the amount of said milks within high schools as part of a wave of new nutrition standards.

I think this is the only data the congressman and his milk industry lobbyists cared about:

According to the Journal of the American Dietetic Association, removing flavored milk from schools resulted in a 62% to 63% reduction in milk consumption by kids in kindergarten through fifth grade, as well as a 50% reduction in sixth to eighth grades.

Basically, ban flavored milks and children will drink less milk, which means less money for big milk, which is why this is a thing.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And if there's less demand for milk, there's less demand for corn, which is the real big business.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Which destroyed my hometown by forcing the corn farmers to produce for syrup/ethanol instead of food, leading to inflation across the board, driving farms to fail and the community to die off. Fuck the corn syrup industry and all the greedy capitalist bullshit like it. 🖕🏽

[–] ares35@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

when i was in school, chocolate milk was only available one day a week (usually fridays). sensible meal planning by the schools to limit the extra sugar intake without 'needing' a law to do it. we didn't have vending machines either, i was out of k12 before that trend took off.

and yea, i can see a '50% reduction' in milk consumption--but only on those days. a lot of kids (including me) bought an extra carton or two (at 5 or 10 cents each back then) when chocolate milk was on the menu, because a little 8 ounce carton of chocolate milk is like a single swig.

[–] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 2 points 2 years ago

Well, of course his motivation is Big Milk, that was never in dispute.

Milk does have excellent nutritional value. A reduction in milk consumption is also a reduction in some vitamin and protein intake. It could be that increasing milk consumption is good for his constituents, and milk consumption is good for the students health. Both things can be true at the same time.

I'd like to see what the data is on flavored milk specifically. Kids need to drink SOMETHING, and I'm curious if the alternative is better in the long run than chocolate milk.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Curious was the data say on the topic.

?

Ninja edit: oh - "[I'm] curious what the data says on the topic.". Right?

[–] protovack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

so weird. i'm a conservative christian. i grow a lot of my own food. chocolate milk in schools is absolutely insane and needs to be gone. the republicans stopped being my party a long time ago.

i had to write a letter to my kid's principle to stop them from giving my kid shitty candy all the time at school. wtf is up with people these days? how did people come to conflate "independence" and "freedom" with junk? kids should be getting water at school. how is this a controversial opinion?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 2 years ago

"FROM MY COLD, DEAD, HANDS!"

holds up half-pint of choccy milk

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

We're paying these fucking clowns how much for this shit? Unreal.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

How did I know they'd have an "R" after their name without even looking?