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After USB-C win, EU tells Tim Cook that Apple must 'open up its gates to competitors'.::The iPhone 15 has USB-C, a move largely due to impending legislation in the European Union requiring smartphones and other...

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[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Finally someone is fighting those companies that take advantage of controlling the platforms.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 61 points 2 years ago
[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Can't happen soon enough. Personally, I'd wish this would go much further and would allow every device to be flashable, with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

There's also a certain irony that certain other places will go to bat for right to repair, and then turn around and say "Actually, I want to live in a walled garden.", not realizing that these are two sides of the same coin.

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

No. There are three main bullshit arguments being used by lobbyists actively making the world a worse place by fighting against this type of legislation.

  • safety and security
  • intellectual propery rights
  • hindering innovation

All three are demonstrably used in hearings to convince legislators to not sign right to repair bills into law. And all three are absolute bullshit.

Replacing the brakes on your own car is not generally seen as introducing safety risks, so why would software be any different? The only things that actually make cars safe are competent drivers (wether flesh and bone, or digital) and proper manufacturing (so no malfunctioning during use).

There is a reason full self driving is not legal in most places worldwide, and likely won't be for a very long time. We've seen too many examples of software fuck ups and the legal responsibility in case of an accident is still a difficult part of the equation.

If we're able to integrate full infotainment systems into cars, and all kinds of AI gadgets for driving assistance. We should be able to make cars safer even if the software is user servicable.

No more gatekeeping bullshit.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 4 points 2 years ago

Good point.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Add newline between line 1 and 2

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

TIL, thank you. Edit has been made.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

Safety means extra-flashable.

[–] watcher@nopeeking.link 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How about Apple laptops next, including specs to write drivers.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps? How about allowing xcode competititors and running on different hardware? Allowing to emulate macos/ios?
Fuck apple.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps?

It's a thing? Can't you just gcc binary into existence?

Fuck apple.

Fuck Putin. Fuck apple too.

[–] paperplane@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

In principle you can, the Mach-O format is openly documented and implemented in the major compilers. The issue is that you need a sysroot (aka SDK) of the frameworks and headers for your target OS, which in Apple's case are proprietary and cannot be redistributed legally (you could probably rip them out of a macOS installation yourself though). For iOS apps you'd also need to sign the binaries and install the app to the device which is non-trivial to impossible to do on other platforms.

[–] pandacoder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Xcode is such hot garbage, the UX Is what you get when you like pretty and hate your programmer. (Honestly I hate most of Apple's UX.)

Also I compiled a C# app for osx-x64 yesterday on Linux (that works, though I have no idea of I could sign it properly to avoid Apple's annoying side load interference), though maybe it included a binary originally compiled by Microsoft on Apple hardware.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

including specs to write drivers.

Whoa, that's super strong move. I 100% support it. Sadly, I'm not in EU. Faust bless EU, they have really big potatoes.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean first you have to get politicians to understand what the hell a “driver” is, and no, Gretchen, it’s not Uber.

[–] watcher@nopeeking.link 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lucky for you they would be super unlikely to change the hardware so much that you wouldn't benefit from "European" drivers in another region.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I mean I can't vote it into existence

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would love to see the looks on the Apple execs' faces when they learn news like this. Those greedy cunts must get a rage boner every time they're forced to act like decent world citizens

[–] UFO64@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Honestly, so long as people keep buying their phones they really don't care about this kind of stuff. Sure, it was a way to drive up margins for a while, but they will just move onto their next bag of tricks to make it hard to leave.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

'Security' is apple's version of 'think of the children'.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I love that the company famous for their 1984 ad tells you they know what software’s best for you to run on a device you own. Very big brother. I really hope iOS 18 third party stores aren’t geo locked to the EU; I wouldn’t put it past them.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Don't buy apple?

[–] Water1053@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Can we start with RCS integration or opening the iMessage protocol?

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, victory.

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

I hope that leads to bootleg iPhones for 1/10th of the price. Could finally convince me to buy one over an Android.