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[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least this is still you choosing when to update

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago

yeah, I just thought it was funny that ive been checking literally daily since I switched to Linux.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I struggle to only update once a week. I'd update daily if it weren't such a waste on the servers.

Its Wednesday and I'm fiending for my Friday update.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Do you have to restart? I'm finding that Fedora (KDE or not) is usually very restart happy.

[–] mobotsar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fedora updates the kernel and other packages that get loaded into memory at boot time more frequently than other non-rolling distros, which of course necessitates more frequent restarts.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it is just because they do more when upgrading if I understand you correctly (actually these restarts are daily occurrence)?

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago

They are saying that boot related packages (kernel, etc.) are being work on more frequently than other booting-required distros.

They might be spending their time on other things or whatever. Just that fedora is focusing that direction, heavily and regularly for quite a while. I'd say especially since 42 not that i have any history beyond 40. I came from a place I despised but couldn't find one that worked as well and stably til i got to trying Fedora. I did, like a decade ago or more, but it wasn't like it is now to me then.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah I dont restart unless its a massive update of tons of core packages

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On fedora that is? Because "my" fedora want to install system stuff only during restart (if updated from app at least).

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can toggle that off in the menu if youre on KDE. I'm on nobara though not fedora so maybe its different.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Where exactly do I find that setting? But I fear it won't work with fedora.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Settings > software update > apply system updates . set it to immediately

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I first started using Fedora I hesitated to turn this setting on because, to me, it sounds like it's going to install stuff automatically without asking. I feel like it's badly named and confusing. Now I suspect they named it poorly on purpose because they really want people to restart to install updates.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago

they did because live patching has a lot more that can go wrong so they made the name reflect that risk. ofc you should get to choose so the setting is there.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

its in the software updates page, I think its behind a button at the top

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

It's where @Fizz@lemmy.nz suggested. Thanks both, I've set it to immediately and first update went without restart. Fingers crossed.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think Debian has ever asked me to restart after an update.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile here's me updating shit once a month at most nowadays.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

Thats better. Once a month is good.

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I like that on Linux I can install the updates and know that the ones that require a restart will just be ready the next time I restart at my leisure. And if I don't feel like restarting right away, it won't nag me about it and maybe just restart on its own if it decides I've put it off for too long.

And I can't believe my previous "solution" to that was to give ms even more money for win 10 pro (to get access to the paywalled settings) only to still feel like ms thought it was their computer that they allowed me to use.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 4 points 1 month ago

exactly my thoughts. I'm in control here but it also does stuff the way that makes sense on its own whenever I dont mess with it.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And soon(tm) we'll have wayland session restore when we do restart!

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

never really got the point of that kind of stuff but looking at the demand I'm glad its getting added (eventually) since everyone else clearly wants it.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I just want my software to leave me the fuck alone and update automatically. Why is this so difficult?

[–] maxwellfire@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's probably an option in your distro to automatically install updates, but it's annoying when that happens when you're in the middle of something or if they require restarts

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As much as I hate to praise Windows, that's why they have "update and shut down" when there are updates available.

[–] BlueKey@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is a thing in all KDE distros I know. Once Discover downloaded them, they will be installed on next shutdown / reboot.

[–] dubious_savior@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Have not gotten this feature to work on Fedora, seems nice if it would work automatically

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never seen it. And KDE nags me incessantly about updates.

[–] Asparagus0098@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can change the update notification frequency somewhere in settings. Pretty sure you can disable it too.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is not that it nags me, the problem is that it expects me to manually approve updates.

[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe there's a setting either in Discover (the KDE "app store") in the main plasma settings (somewhere in the "updates" section? That might be somewhere else, I don't remember) that will automatically install updates without you needing to approve them.

And there's also a setting that will wait to install them until the next boot. When I had that setting on, it only added maybe 10 seconds to my startup time when I needed to apply something like a kernel update.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

There is. It doesn't do anything.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yay --noconfirm && poweroff

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

I think you may have glossed over the "automatically" part.

[–] maxwellfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Kubuntu at least also has this option!

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Theres an option in Fedora KDE but it has never worked for me for some reason…?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it's a KDE setting somewhere as there are settings for everything.

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Sorry for not being more helpful, I do almost everything on the command line..

I think it's called muon, or these days discovery, maybe.. there you should be able to configure auto updates

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

But it's such an excitement!

Automatic updates don't give you the pleasure to see what changed and update and test new features out

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

When you run sid and update some times 7 times in a day 😁

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Restarting is good for a computer's health, right? I think my Kubuntu laptop is the only machine in my house that averages less than two weeks of uptime

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

My CachyOS (Arch) desktop gets rebooted somewhat often because it suggests I reboot after some upgrades. I guess it's kernel upgrades, but I'm not sure which do and don't trigger that recommendation. Nor do I really know how important it is lol.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

yes, iirc the general advice is to restart like once a week. its not a huge deal if you wait a little longer (two is fine) its just a guideline.

[–] Natanox@chaos.social 1 points 1 month ago

@unknown1234_5 I want my software to be updated in the background but limited to using only 10% of any resource (bandwidth, CPU etc) while doing so.

I can always set it to automatic somehow, but I never saw those utilities offering a maximum download speed or CPU/Disk utilization setting in any distro.