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The NYT hates peaceful protest (infosec.pub)

submitted 9 months ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of how Colin Kaepernick demonstrating an unambiguously peaceful display of protest during the Black Lives Matter protests, and a bunch of people still got upset about it.

They'll attack any sort of protest. They just want you to sit back and take it. Anything that doesn't go according to their plans is a problem. Not consuming enough, not working enough, not having enough kids? All problems.

[+] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

They're all state controlled. I cant tell you often enough.

Capitalism is not a free system. The media only says what it is supposed to say. That has been proven countless times.

The reason why some mainstream media posts "critical" articles is to make the ruse believable.

Please read anti imperialist sources and be prepared to have the crudest awakening possible.

What we in the west call "propaganda" by eastern states is mostly true and our understanding of "history* is mostly false. We are the baddies.

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't cut yourself on all that edge

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its quite shocking how unpopular antiimperialism is on lemmy. But then again, this is world.

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's quite shocking how people ignore imperalism of the east. Neither is acceptable.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You didnt need to prove my point that fast but okay. Thanks i guess.

Did your country print you the "certified centrist" barcode in your neck yet? :D

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's that supposed to mean?

I reject imperalism, I recognize state influence on media (especially in authoritarian nations) is a major threat to society, billionaires are a cancer, and everyone deserves their basic needs met.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because you're drinking the koolaid of so called democracies while thinking they're not killing millions of people for profit. What do you think the people do that mine the stuff for your phones, the people around the mines, the people who live near oil extraction.

Capitalist nations are the greater evil by a huge margin. They kill as many people in three years as all socialist countries in the world ever did.

Please read something that is not imperialist media. Its really easy to understand. Capitalism is evil.

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Give some examples of non imperialist media and nations that we should aspire towards.

I understand the devistation of nickle, cobalt, and other mines and recently spent several months in countries around their main sources in SEA. I've lived in China for a few years, and I currently live in a country formerly under communist control.

I think you are dreaming about an ideal that doesn't actually exist. There are attrocities across the board.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please; they do not make it under circumstances chosen by themselves, but under circumstances directly encountered, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all the dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living.

I would agree no country is perfect with regards to being completely anti-imperialist. All nation-states have an interest in building empire.

Having said that just because we live in a world that incentives competition between nation-states, that does not mean the world as is, is inevitable or eternal. Just because an ideal doesn’t exist, doesn’t mean it’s not an ideal worth striving for. Things can change and it is worth striving towards a world with better human relations.

Having said that, some examples of more positive relations do exist.

One could point to the international healthcare initiatives from Cuba as a positive example of non-imperialist relations to aspire towards.

While China is far from perfect, they have made small positive steps with the Belt and Road Initiative by offering better terms to developing countries than historical international investments initiatives such as the IMF and the World Bank. If leaders in western liberal democracies want to compete with China and offer developing countries terms with even better environmental and labor standards for mining operations or otherwise; I view that as an unmitigated win for human relations.

Unfortunately, from where I’m sitting, it seems like leaders in western liberal democracies are more interested in competing with China in military terms rather than in labor or environmental terms.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 9 months ago

Thank you for putting this in words. I would not have done it this well.

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