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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yeah let's not forget who they are, the people in power in Iran. Worst scum on earth.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's a shame that when scum fights scum there are so many innocent civilians who will suffer. there are no good guys in this. A little bully with rich parents picked a fight with a big bully and everything that can come out of this will suck.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

A fair assessment IMO.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is it normal to allow people to send military information to your enemy?

I'm not a huge fan of either of the two belligerent, but this is not exactly an unreasonable position to take. And they are at least putting reporters on notice.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean if they really just wanted to make sure military information doesn't reach Israel they wouldn't impose the death penalty; the excessive punishment makes it clear this is going to be used to suppress unrelated dissent.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

Information flow can never go backwards. There's plenty of examples of reporters or even social media compromising military operations. In at least a few cases, it has lead to the destruction of military assets. Once broadcast, the damage is done.

Trying to force reporters to think hard about what they are broadcasting is a good thing, from the point of view of national defence.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

"hey, so if we think you published classified info, you're gonna get killed. Is that okay with you guys? Thanks for being so understanding."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

If it's a dictatorship I'd say yes because they are (also) the enemy.

I'm also against the death penalty in general, but especially for scaring your own citizens into obedience.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As bad as israeli and united snake leaders

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism is for blaming USA when the Russians have done something bad, not the iranians or Israelis 🤷🏼‍♀️.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

They is no whataboutism. You just have double standard

[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

USA has the Espionage Act. A violation of this law can be punishable by death, and whistleblowers and journalists have been targeted under this law in the past.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 23 points 4 months ago

Roy Cohn, the guy who mentored Trump and was McCarthy's second AND had his own Lavender Scare (while he himself was gay) got his claim to fame when he sent a Jewish couple to death over this exact thing

[–] Frenezul0_o@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Does anyone else see a suspicious disconnect here? The actual legislation cited is a prohibition about "any intelligence cooperation with the Mossad". And what's more, this complaint is coming from Euronews, a news agency which is likely hostile to the regime. Whatever you think about the regime, I am pretty sure that cooperation with the enemy in wartime is maximally punishable in any country.

So my takeaway when I read this piece was that it sounded like a fox complaining that teeth and claws are forbidden in the chicken coop.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

You're halfway there. Now ask yourself why a civilian has a distinction in their language when they're describing world leaders? Why is Iran ruled by a "regime" and any is Israel seeking "regime" change? Why are Western countries not ruled by "regimes"?

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

I was going to say this is manufacturing consent, but given this is recent news I guess I can't complain.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Israel attacks Iran. Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago is now the root of all evil.

Talk of manufacturing consent in an unprovoked attack on another country. The scrambling to justify these attacks on Iran is real interesting.

See you tomorrow and the next day for an Iran did this bad thing story. Keep drip feeding that narrative.

[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago

In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you read your sources, you'll realise Palestine is the worst. "Palestine has become the world’s most dangerous state for journalists, as almost 200 reporters were killed in Gaza by the Israeli army over the first 18 months of war, at least 42 of whom were likely killed due to their work. In the West Bank, where journalists were already the victims of abuses by both the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli occupying forces, Israeli pressure has intensified since 7 October 2023, with an increase in arrests of reporters and obstructions to their work."

2 bad guys are fighting it out here. One was an aggressor who started this conflict...

[–] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Clearly, and i never said the opposite.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I don't want to be mean but did you live under a rock in 2022-2023?

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.