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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] 8bittech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Me Fail English? That's unpossible!

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Not surprising h their president can hardly read

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah we elected one in to the presidential office too

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, people make more of this than it is. I say that as someone whoes reading level in the 8th grade was rated "post-High School" in tests. Though IIRC, that particular test wasn't considered accurate past a 10th grade reading level or so. Suffice it to say, though, I was always rated at least a few grade levels higher than my actual grade level when it comes to reading.

If you pick up examples of post-High School writing, you'll find it's hard to read. Basically, check any abstract on a paper for a technical field. It'll be full of field-specific jargon and long sentences. Copy and paste it into a writing assistant like Hemmingway, and it will scream at you to simplify the sentence structure.

Converting to terms of Lexile level, Fellowship of the Ring has a rating of 860L. By a conversion chart, we would expect 50% of students to be able to read it by the spring of 4th grade. Even the bottom 10% of students can read it by the beginning of 10th grade.

That's a relatively hard book; harder than what most fiction asks of you. Of Mice and Men, which is on plenty of High School reading lists, only has a Lexile level of 630L. Conversely, Romeo and Juliet can go up to 1260L (though this varies depending on the editing of different editions).

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

get out into the low income areas. if you spend a lot of time there, you'd probably be surprised to know the reading level is as high as it is.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, no shit. gestures generally toward the DC area

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.

When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?

There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.

Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean math rock is a genre, in fairness

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Science shouldn't be compared to religion. On one hand because the doctrine of non-overlapping magesteria which all religions should follow (it can be summed up as anything Science has a say in, religion shouldn't). But also like science shouldn't bother competing here. When science is treated as religion, it's often abused similarly. Its a method for understanding the world.

The fact that pv=nRT is provable and if I go and get rudimentary equipment to do this I can double check without any scientists present. Sure there are stories associated with science, but unlike in religion they aren't the stuff its made of. Science doesn't ask for praise or belief, it asks for skepticism, curiosity, and precision.

Edit: wait, does Muse's album "the second law" count as science rock? It slapped and was about thermodynamics to a certain degree

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[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

87.4% graduate high school, then people stop being forced to read books and those who never liked reading get out of practice

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely do not understand why people do not like reading. Im not a super nerd and only read a few books a year but I look at the hours i spent reading those books as some of the best entertainment i've had all year.

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[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

The fact that some replies don't understand the title of the article and some are trying to explain it is funny af to me, I'm sorry 😂

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

That's good news! ... it means they're improving! USA! USA! USA!

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