this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
141 points (98.6% liked)

Privacy

3546 readers
80 users here now

Welcome! This is a community for all those who are interested in protecting their privacy.

Rules

PS: Don't be a smartass and try to game the system, we'll know if you're breaking the rules when we see it!

  1. Be civil and no prejudice
  2. Don't promote big-tech software
  3. No apathy and defeatism for privacy (i.e. "They already have my data, why bother?")
  4. No reposting of news that was already posted
  5. No crypto, blockchain, NFTs
  6. No Xitter links (if absolutely necessary, use xcancel)

Related communities:

Some of these are only vaguely related, but great communities.

founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS
top 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] viking 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As if they'd impose maximum penalties, no matter how deserved. But hey, fingers crossed!

And imho the whole issue can be avoided by using mobile websites and/or alternative app front-ends for meta services, if you can't steer clear of them altogether.

And blocking apps from using background data should seal the deal.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I have webrtc completely disabled in browsers.

I tell everyone, and I abide by : never use an app if you can use the website. If they only have an app be prepared to be fucked.

I also use a VPN / firewall / DNS filter (by domain and by IP). Rethink or invizible provide all 3 in 1 on android. On linux rotating VPNs, rotating local DNS resolvers [dnscrypt-proxy with local doh with blacklists], and strict firewall rules.

*Facebook* , *meta*, *Instagram* etc are blocked in and out. As are Google "safety" domains, and a lot of their APIs.

Privacy may be inconvenient, but selling (giving away for likes) your soul to the devil could cost you a lot more.

[–] viking 2 points 2 months ago

Same here, in my productive browser (Fennc on mobile, stock Firefox on desktop) WebRTC is blocked. I keep a chrome variant around in case anything truly doesn't work (Cromite on mobile, Edge on Windows, since I have to use some MS applications for work that I don't care to install on my system).

I rotate VPN servers, not services though.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sounds like they can't track people that don't have their app. So, not something I need to worry about.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...but what about everyone you are frequently interacting with? Not as bad obviously but I don't think you fully escape the effect is what I am saying.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That doesn't matter for this particular issue as far as I can tell. This is about tracking what Facebook a user does on their device outside of the Facebook app. Even if I used my friend's phone who uses Facebook, it would count toward their profile. Same as if someone else watches stuff on your Netflix profile.

I don't have the Facebook app nor do I have an account. This method of tracking is useless for those like me.

Facebook definitely has pictures of me that others have posted. People talking about me, etc. Not sure there's anything I can do about that.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Meta casts a wide net with all their apps. Maybe someone deletes their Facebook app but still needs WhatsApp to communicate with family, for example. I love the idea of that app in particular "not looking at your messages" while it learns about all your out-of-app browsing behavior without your knowledge or consent.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

The fb share button on websites is problematic. Website tracking is problematic. Archivers are my go-to.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FYI you sound incredibly self-centered and unpleasant.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because I don't use Facebook? That's new.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because you indicate that you don't care if it happens to others as long as it doesn't happen to you.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're reading a lot into the two sentences I posted. AKA, making shit up.

[–] koper@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

That's why I said "you sound" like that and not "you are". Those two sentences are all you posted. I'm just telling you how they come across to me.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course it's self centring; you're not thinking about the money billionaires could make from your data, you communist! How will their children eat?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Gonna have to be Wagyu instead of caviar and foie gras. I'm a monster.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It could cost Meta 32 billion.

US law: "Best I can do is 15 thousand."

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

EU law: "How about percentage of global revenue per infraction?"

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They don't ask them what they want to pay or what they claim the revenue was, they look at the numbers:

Art. 83(5) GDPR, the fine framework can be up to 20 million euros, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of their total global turnover of the preceding fiscal year, whichever is higher.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/fines-penalties/

Although realistically speaking they're probably just getting fined for one "infringement", despite committing quite a lot.

[–] whalebiologist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

In real life people think it is weird that I don't use apps; even if this is obvious to us, we are also a bunch of anarchists on a defederated internet forum. Explanations and examples like this will help us protect the normal people who don't think like us (yet).

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

I'm curious if Meta could do this with their apps, can other apps do something similar?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I doubt a lot of Lemmy users have got those apps on their phones. Although I am curious about how it would affect people who, say, used Island or similar (leverage the Work profile) to install them as I have seen that suggested in privacy communities before. Would Meta only be able to access other apps installed to that profile - if you had a browser installed in it too for example?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

deleted by creator

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

And how much did they profit off of it..?