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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 83 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Every part of the world is. It's not unique to the US. Laws need to be passed to stop this.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yes. Unfortunately, these systems are also a great gift for any upcoming fascist regime (like the Trump junta currently) which will not only happily continue using the existing infrastructure but also extend it like mad.

Maybe humanity's greatest weaknesses overall: the lack of foresight and the lack of wisdom learned from historic precedents (e.g. Nazi Germany? Forgotten by now). Everything's always about short-term goals, ignoring any long-term disadvantages. See also: climate disaster.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bet you $500 that the next democrat president won’t tear down the system and will in fact give even more contracts to Palantir & co.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

Palantir have been with every president since it's inception. I once searched palintir, lotr 10+years ago, it was already well established by then

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's a capitalism weakness, not a human weakness though.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh, do the kids these days really not know about the post-9/11 Patriot Act?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Is there a word for when the media is constantly like 3+ years behind with "warnings" like this? I mean Jesus Christ, turning into?

[–] danzabia 6 points 9 months ago

Better that they cover it than not. And the recent ramp up is worth reporting on, it's a new level of weaponization compared to previous administrations.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I'm sure German could do a compound of "spät erkennen" or similar for a late realisation.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 41 points 9 months ago

it's already a surveillance state and both the red and blue party are complicit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh you mean since like, 2001?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

And by US, the author means the world.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

kinda been that way since 2001

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Since a bit earlier or so I've read.

[–] qweertz@programming.dev 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Turning"?! "into"?!

ig neither the glowies, nor Snowden, nor Manning exist

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where are all the "nothing to hide" people now.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 6 points 9 months ago

Probably realizing that Democrats can now trace who bought MAGA hats and they too have guns.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Turning into" lol. The USA and all their partner countries like the ones in the 5 Eyes program have all been mass techno-surveillance states for decades.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The 5 eyes countries are not allowed to spy on their own citizens, but they can freely share data.

Isn't there an obvious loophole here.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 8 points 9 months ago

Shhhh... Don't make it even more obvious. The fig leaf covering it is already so flaccid, that it might instantaneously turn into dust at the slightest disturbance.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 points 9 months ago

It’s almost like it was by design.

They also just spy on their own citizens anyway, because who is going to stop them?

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

wait US is putting surveillance on techno producers?

[–] bricklove@midwest.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a 20 year old album about it (it's really cool that my favorite band is called ISIS. It's neat how they broke up in 2010 but I still can only wear the merch at home)

[–] peereboominc@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

How hard did Musk press his fingers on his other hand? Or does his blood not flow that hard?