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[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 371 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You literally posted the answer to your question. Here is an expansion of the details.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 189 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The "collected data types" in that comment seems to be copy/pasted from the privacy policy

https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That might be US only, where the companies have freedom to get all the customer's data and do with it as they will.

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[–] moon@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Due to Steam's tos updates a few months ago, isn't take-two opening itself up to a massive lawsuit?

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[–] Nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Hm... Ok. Thats crazy. Someone wants to create a new branch of income it seems.

Thats a fucking shame. Now I need to reconsider my plans to buy Borderlands4.

But how will they do it? Which information is gathered from which source? Most of my accounts only hold as little informations as possible. Also my Os knows nothing about me. My MS account neither.

On the other hand my steam 2FA need some mobile information.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Checkout Jump Ship? It's some weird borderlands, Star citizen, (insert other generic shooter) type game. Pretty neat, was recommended to me by a shooter fanatic friend of mine. I trust his shooting game opinion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1757300/Jump_Ship/

[–] topherclay@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

oh cool, I can see that it's similar Borderlands by the screenshots, and I can see that it's like Star Citizen because it's not actually released yet and they're taking money for early access.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 166 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Don't just review bomb it

Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 165 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t the screenshot you posted explain what’s going on?

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 107 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That. The content of the screenshot you posted. That is what's going on.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 93 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
  • Did the EULA change? ✅
  • Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌
  • Do Take Two games contain code to report telemetry and user information(including application/system activity) to a home server? ✅
  • Is this EULA change extraordinary and particularly egregious in comparison to others that most people have probably already agreed to? ❌(IMO)
  • Are people riled up because e a YouTube video went a little viral and now they’re all playing telephone to the point where it’s now gotten to the point of random dumdums are review booming a 13 year old game claiming it’s turned into literal spyware? ✅(again, IMO)
  • Should you be surprised by any of this if you’ve been even remotely paying attention for any period of the last 30-40 years? ❌
  • Do we need more than just angry idiots in the battle against corpatocracy? ✅

We should be done coddling the late comers at this point. Yes welcome them and accept them, but at a certain point your level of ignorance became a detriment to your community and you should be made aware of that fact.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago (16 children)
[–] BlindFrog@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Precise location information? Wtf for?

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hyper Localized Advertising. Welcome to the future :(

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh honey, what's any of it for?

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pirates are winning over my empathy.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They've been my best friend for years

[–] mrbubblesort@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Piracy never gave me up, never let me down

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago
[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 month ago (11 children)

🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 44 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Apart from the politics, the Borderlands games themselves are hardly utter shit for the most part.

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[–] REDACTED 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I sometimes wonder what will happen when EAC, that has root access to millions of PCs, gets compromised or has grunty employee and pushes malicious update

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

It probably spys on you already.

The company that makes the Overwolf game launcher is an Israli cyber security company that gets money from the US.

Tencent spys on people for China through a lot of the games they own.

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[–] EnsignPacts@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I checked the Steam depots. It seems the game files haven’t been updated since 2022. All that seems to have changed is some license agreement in February. Seems to be a thing across take two games, and not specific to borderlands 2.

Basically nothing has changed in real terms for this game. Maybe borderlands 4 might have draconian DRM, who knows.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

A government that cares for is people would ban this shit and procecute any company trying to find ways around it.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yikes. Is the review in the screenshot true? They got root anticheat? Or rootkit data harvesting?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He said they added a kernel level anticheat in the TOS which is true. But they seem to have not included it in the game yet. But they tell that by possedong the game you allow them to. Edit : typo but can't correct "possedong" now

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

possedong

I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this because Embracer sold Borderlands to Take-Two last year?

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

It's because Take Two came out with a fuck-you-in-the-ass EULA for all their games. I actually look forward to boycotting someone, there's too much free and discounted shit everywhere

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

the game's store page doesn't mention that it requires root access, like it does for some other games. am i missing something?

edit: the words "root" and "level" (ctrl+f'd each one separately) don't appear anywhere in the EULA. "access" shows up in a couple spots that definitely are NOT talking about root level access. i'm all about outrage over enshittification, but so far this sounds like bullshit

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

They added spyware to it.

Here is excerpt from the tos, shared by user in steam reviews of the game.

important Info in Terms of Service:

• Mods are a bannable offense • Display of Cheats/Exploits is bannable • Forced arbitration clause and a waiver of class action and jury trial rights for all users residing in the United States and any other territory other than Australia, Switzerland, The United Kingdom, or The Territories of The European Economic Area • You can be banned for using a VPN while connecting to online servers • Cannot access game content on a Virtual PC

Collected Data Types: • Identifiers / Contact Information: Name, user name, gamertag, postal and email address, phone number, unique IDs, mobile device ID, platform ID, gaming service ID, advertising ID (IDFA, Android ID) and IP address • Protected Characteristics: Age and gender • Commercial Information: Purchase and usage history and preferences, including gameplay information • Billing Information: Payment information (credit / debit card information) and shipping address • Internet / Electronic Activity: Web / app browsing and gameplay information related to the Services; information about your online interaction(s) with the Services or our advertising; and details about the games and platforms you use and other information related to installed applications • Device and Usage Data: Device type, software and hardware details, language settings, browser type and version, operating system, and information about how users use and interact with the Services (e.g., content viewed, pages visited, clicks, scrolls) • Profile Inferences: Inferences made from your information and web activity to help create a personalized profile so we can identify goods and services that may be of interest • Audio / Visual Information: Account photos, images, and avatars, audio information via chat features and functionality, and gameplay recordings and video footage (such as when you participate in playtesting) • Sensitive Information: Precise location information (if you allow the Services to collect your location), account credentials (user name and password), and contents of communications via chat features and functionality.

I wouldnt touch anything this company has produced.

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