I don't know why anyone is still talking about a lab outbreak in Wuhan because of the wet market nearby being suspected in mid December, when we know for sure that Covid was in Italy in September/October and possibly as early as May. The world just shrugged at this info because faecal treatment samples aren't as interesting as as bat soup and bioterrorism.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

Racism mostly. Easier to just be racist against the Chinese than to admit COVID is the result of something more nuanced and systemic

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[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Any sources on the virus being discovered in Italy before China? That would change the entire discussion.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s the thing, the COVID conspiracy people now posting this shirt saying, “SEE!?! IT WAS LAB LEAK!!” as if that justifies every single other insane thing they’ve ever said about COVID. Because there’s a huge difference between “covid CAME FROM a lab” and “lab leak possible origin.” One implies conspiracy, the other implies carelessness. What’s the old saying? ‘Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to greed?’ I very much think the same applies to stupidity—and honestly, in this case, greed probably caused the stupidity. How much funding-slashing has led to calamity in recent times? Plenty.

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation. The issue is not so much about how/when it was leaked, but more along the lines of how poorly they handled the whole situation and subsequent coverup. For all we know, it could have been leaked by accident way earlier.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think the lab with a long record of carelessness leaking the virus by accident is entirely plausible if not the most reasonable explanation

I personally don't think it came from Detrick, but I don't fault you for thinking so

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[–] jonne 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't really have any issues with accepting a lab leak possibility, but the lab leak people generally add a whole bunch of other conspiracies on top of that (it was designed as a bioweapon, leaked intentionally, etc), and nobody can really explain why this would be any good as a bioweapon if it hurts you as much as your enemies, and if you release it without having a vaccine for it.

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[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 14 points 2 years ago

The original saying is "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

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[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Hexbear users coming to defend China before even reading the post title:

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

Sup guys. Just commenting here so you can avoid reading the most brainlet of a take below. Hope you all have a good day.

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Looks like lab leak theory is back on the menu boys!

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, because it's not like there are any geopolitical reasons that might explain why the NIH would want to decouple from China.

Fact is, you can find infractions from any lab. It's just a question of whether you want to look.

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[–] Farman@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

What if covid was a terrorist atack on china and iran by obama loyalists? With the aded benefit ithat it put them back in power.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Damn even the nonpolitical homies are dunking on this one

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