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[–] huginn@feddit.it 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's mostly bullshit.

Eat a balanced diet and stop stressing about specifics. Eat meat sparingly. Don't drink at all and it'll make a bigger difference in your life than seed oils. Drink in moderation if you can't handle that. Have fruits and veggies daily, as fresh as you can get them. Walk a few miles a day.

All the basic easy stuff is the most effective. There are no tricks, shortcuts or gotchas.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Drinking is a big thing, in a lot of ways. If you need to not be sober, try edibles instead.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Getting high to avoid sobriety daily is quite bad as well. Close to that of alcohol. Certainly worse if you are eating edibles fault compared to a beer once or twice a week.

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is any of that based on something besides your personal preference? What does quite bad mean? And what is "close to alcohol?" How much alcohol? How high?

I've also never met a person that drinks A beer. I've met lots that drink beers and call it a beer to minimize their habits though.

No offense but your opinion sounds like an anti drug ad from the 90's made by someone who's yet to admit their drug of choice is even a drug.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I smoke weed few times a month. Will have a beer about once, sometimes twice a week. I do pot to get a buzz typically where as a single beer is just nice on a hot day and won't give me any feeling unless I drink a few in a row. I suspect you never met a person that drinks 'a' beer because the same reason you wouldn't know if a person has a glass of wine at supper. Lots of people do it just for the taste and relaxation and refreshment. Not to get a buzz. There is evidence that is even good for you but I think it is a wash. The occasional one that is. You are likely right though if you know someone that needs 'a' single beer a day, they are likely drinking more than that. And I would agree, a full on alcohol addiction is harder on the body then a full on weed addiction.

What I do see is alcoholics will not claim being so is somehow improving their life in an meaningful way. At least they are being truthful. I do know a fair amount of daily pot users, some basically wake and bake, and they are better at suggesting it is necessary to make their life better. I don't buy that.

[–] ShadowCatEXE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there any difference between drinking 1-2 beers weekly, vs nothing at all?

[–] CCatMan@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, nothing will be better, but you should enjoy what you like. Just don't go crazy

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Moderation in all things is sage advice.

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

They're higher in inflammatory fats (most seed oils are predominantly composed of omega-6 polyunsaturated fats/inflammatory fats). While our bodies do need some inflammatory and anti-inflammatory fats (sort of like we need Cholesterol) we do not need too much. Calling them toxic is a step too far, but all foods should be consumed in moderation.

https://www.matherhospital.org/wellness-at-mather/diet-nutrition/the-connection-between-diet-and-inflammation/

[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is my understanding, it's not that they're bad, but that they are in everything.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

Yep, that's the main problem with all the buzzword substances that diet culture is obsessed with: fat, salt, carbs, etc... All of those are fine in moderation, but the problem is that the processed garbage that the average person eats for lunch contains a RIDICULOUS amount of those things.

Not sugar, though. Sugar is just bad for you, full stop. πŸ˜†

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, just as sugar is good for you, but only in the right proportion.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

A EXTREMELY helpful article, with scientific references covering the entire issue much better then I did below: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetable-oils

Original reply follows - - -

The main issue is oxidative stress caused by Omega-6 fatty acids. Omega-3 are anti-oxidants and reduce stress. The ratio of o3/o6 is helpful in seeing how it can impact your body.

There is a small, but growing, body of research linking consumption of seed oils with metabolic problems (diabetes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM

I recommend this whole playlist

For people who are concerned about oxidative stress, they tend to cook food in fats, and avoid seed oil issues all together. Olive oil is a good seed oil, but getting a unadulterated pure source is problematic.

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[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.jeffnobbs.com/posts/death-by-vegetable-oil-what-the-studies-say

I found this post immensely helpful in describing the science behind the health effects of seed oils. But it remains to be said that saturated fat doesn't seem like the best thing for you either. I use the mostly unsaturated oil olive oil nowadays.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

isnt olive oil much more pricey

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It wasn't too bad before in my opinion but this year there was a big drought in the Mediterranean and now it's extremely expensive. Even butter is cheaper than olive oil now I'm afraid... I just try to use less of it. Speaking of butter there are now a few big studies out there showing that milk fat is not as bad as the saturated fats found in meat. But they are all funded by dairy companies so I don't know if I can really trust them. It's hard navigating the world of fats and health. Fats are good for you but it's hard to know which ones are the good ones.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Butter has always been an order of magnitude cheaper than actual olive oil in most places I think. Maybe that's different in OO producing regions idk

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

We make our own olive oil here in Australia, and it's pretty cheap by the can. I decant it into snaller bottles to use. Butter and ghee is thought to be better than most fats, yes. But (unburned) animal fat is still not a terrible thing. It's artificial sweeteners and even plain sugar that seem far more dangerous to me.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

True, staying healthy isn’t for the poor :(

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 2 years ago

It is. Just don't use oil. Use lard, cooking fat. Buy a cheap fatty cut of meat, the fat you can use over and over again to cook with.

Many Asian markets sell fat for pennies per pound.

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Poverty ain't for the weak.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It depends on the seed - canola oil is known as rapeseed oil here in the UK and is good for you.

What you want to avoid are ultra-processed foods that tend to be high in sugar, salt and bad fats.

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They often relabel rapeseed oil as "canola" or even "vegetable" oil, but it still is strong flavoured and unhealthy to consume.

Canola oil is known to be bad for you here in Australia, and olive oil thought to be more healthy.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

It depends on how processed it is but, by and large, it's a pretty healthy oil.