experiences hidden traps
complains about hidden traps
complains no one posts info about hidden traps
does not post their info about the hidden traps.
Help me out here.
This community covers both asshole designs and crappy designs.
Discuss manifestations of asshole designs whereby the design is deliberately anti-consumer. Manifestations of crappy designs are also welcome in this forum, which reflect poor designs that are not borne out of deliberate contempt for the consumer.
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experiences hidden traps
complains about hidden traps
complains no one posts info about hidden traps
does not post their info about the hidden traps.
Help me out here.
Sounds pretty clear to me. There were parts hidden by the chassis that would break and fall apart when disassembled.
Gotta keep up the fight our right to repair. This is not how something should come apart
To be fair tho, for all we know op just messed up and should've just made a phone call to the manufacturer
Some disassembled pictures and suggestions for tools would be nice, is alls I’m saying.
Also, heck yes, right to repair.
How likely is it Bosch are DMCAing people who post disassembly guides?
A lot of modern crap is snap together assembly . It is not made to be taken apart, you will break tabs if you do. Glue works, or tape if you don't mind it being ugly. Glue makes it harder the next time it needs to be repaired though.
I have made a couple tools to depress the ears on tabs, but my success rate is maybe 60%. You still need to know exactly where they are, and there may be a few screws in there too. It's still better than when the manufacturer uses epoxy, or worse, Ultrasonic Welding.
A lot of modern crap is snap together assembly . It is not made to be taken apart, you will break tabs if you do.
It can go either way. Recall the story of Dell. All their PCs screwed together. Europe complained, saying that screws slow down the disposal disassembly process. Europe forced Dell to make the PCs so that they quickly snap apart. Dell management was outraged at first. They were opposed to being nannied. But Dell had to concede. What they discovered was by making the machines easily snap apart, it incidentally made assembly cheaper and faster. So they realised it saved them money and they should have been doing it all along.
Anyway, snap together clips can be designed for easier disassembly than screws -- or they can pull an asshole Bosch move and design the clips to be complex and self-destructing.
Oh, they can be engineered to come apart. The profit is better if you are one of the few people who actually take things apart, but you destroy it in the process.
I recently fixed this clock/Bluetooth speaker thing. All clips, except for two screws hidden behind the thick faceplate. The only way to know they were there was to feel that it wasn't coming apart. Pressing the faceplate to feel for indentations revealed nothing. There was not any good reason for the screws to be there, and you could just break it apart. That would have destroyed the ribbon connector though.
Just asshole design
Taking stuff like this apart is so frustrating - whenever I get it actually fixed I start looking at how to modify some sanity into the case design - I cut away shrouds that hide screws, and if there's room, I add hinges and latches, or replace broken snaps and tabs with JB welded nuts and holes for matching bolts. I'm actually planning to really lean in on this in future projects. I like visible mending and hate the clean, sleek, everything's plastic look anyways.
If you get the chance, post some pictures of the problem areas!