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[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

More hard drive slots? No problem! Extra vibrations are good for hard drives probably.

[–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vibrations are movement. Hard drives have moving components. That means that vibrations help read/write speeds!

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Movement... increases speed... that sounds right!

[–] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So there should be a Disk Vibrator!

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can hear the case vibration in that picture lol

[–] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This isn't a high rpm fan, it's enough to keep the LSI card cool.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Ohh I was referring to the pic posted behind the "No problem" link in that user's comment lol

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What temps were you seeing before adding the fan?

[–] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hot to touch, and now its warn to touch.

As long as it’s not error or critical to touch, you should be good.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Just add hard drives until there is no play for vibration.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Improvised but at the same time cared enough to put 4 ties where the bolts would go. Approved.

[–] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A coworker of mine was an computer engineer in the early 2000s, but is now a warehouse director. She told me she helped her son build a new pc but it was having heating issues. I asked about fans and she said it only had 2 intake on the front with no exhaust. Told her a local shop that has cheaply priced good fans. She said computers have changed a lot in 20 years. I helped in about a week ago with choosing storage blocks, had no clue nvme even existed.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago

nvme did kinda feel like it arrived out of nowhere!

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

You do lose touch rather quickly. I'm a software developer, but I'm not really interested in hardware in my free time, so I honestly didn't know what exactly to make of nvme until very recently.

The first time I saw an m.2 SSD in real life was about a year ago.

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 13 acronyms.

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[–] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Gotta love a good TLA.

[–] Dempf@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nice, I ended up just taping a fan on underneath using HVAC tape applied directly to the heatsink.

The plastic screw thing that holds the heatsink on can become brittle and break after some years. It might be worth picking up some small nylon bolts online before that happens.

Edit: or I guess zip ties would work if it comes to that....

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago

I placed my fan over the heatsink and did an X pattern in zipties to hold it all in place

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You can ditch the first sentence there.
Zip ties is always the solution. Period.

[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What'da work at New Holland or something?

Their equipment is held together by zipties.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Nah, but I live in one of the cities MAN is named after. No that this would mean anything, but hey.... :P

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 2 years ago

Except if some string and paperclip is enough.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Zip ties the new duct tape?

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

More like working in symbiosis

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Zipties and brown for life.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta give it to noctua for making brown cool

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, sadly a lot of server hardware is designed for high air-flow rack-mounted cases and doesn't deal so well with normal ventilation somewhat optimized to reduce noise. Especially PCIe ethernet cards seem to get really hot, but SATA extension cards are also problematic. Adding some better passive cooling also often helps.

[–] sykan@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If I could find a internal server fan smaller then 20x20mm. I'd stick one next to my 1U CPU Cooler. But for some reason I can't find one. Needs to be smaller then 20x20 because it would sit on top of the motherboard in a closed 1U server rack frame.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sykan@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

The board doesn't come with any extra on it. There is one used but it doesn't boot without that card. Not really sure what it does. It's a Dell Poweredge R410 Server: looks like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/er4AAOSwNDVfyTuN/s-l1600.jpg

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can use a larger fan and a shroud to redirect the air flow, similar to how laptops are cooled.

[–] sykan@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd like to keep the cooling internal, I just have it sitting on a shelve next too other desktops k3s nodes.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just meant you can have an internal fan that's larger than your heatsink, and a shroud to direct the airflow to it. It requires less vertical space, but more horizontal space.

[–] sykan@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah that makes sense, the board does come with a shroud, my fans just don't have the power to push air through it well.

[–] 2nsfw2furious@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are centrifugal fans that are quite flat but they intake airflow from a different axis they exhaust it from. Could still work

[–] sykan@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

Hmm I've gotta look into that, It's Dell Poweredge R410 Server: looks like this: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/er4AAOSwNDVfyTuN/s-l1600.jpg.

It would need to fit inbetween two heat sinks pretty snug.

[–] ByteWizard@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd say it was the fan that solved the overheating problem, not the zip ties.

[–] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I tried just the fan on it's own, but gravity always left it sat at the bottem of my case.

[–] drkt@feddit.dk 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's that CPU cooler? I've been looking for super low profile coolers.

[–] BlovedMadman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Its the stock CPU cooler that comes with the newer Intel's (this is a 12th gen i3)

[–] Chup@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

"Recycling brackets", 1000 pcs bag.

This bag contains already used zip ties in various lengths and colours. You can reuse the items and be creative. Build modern art for your living room, a fan holding bracket for your server or a cool handle for your hot coffee cup.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I did this without the zip ties, kind of wedge it between the motherboard and the power cables.

[–] happy_saw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Tag this as NSFW!!!

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Using consumer hardware as a server.

[–] SiblingNoah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just screwed a tiny Noctua right into the heatsink of my LSI. Worked great.

[–] SiblingNoah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

(The screw holes lined up with the gaps)