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This is a question has been bothering me as someone who's country was colonized by the British Empire. We were taught about it in schools and how it lost power over time but never how the USA came to take its place especially over such a short compared to the British Empire.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Because we came out on top at the end of WWII, but we were the main Allied nation whose country didn't get blown to smithereens during the war due to being an ocean away. (Granted, neither was Australia but they were not and did not become a manufacturing powerhouse in the process.)

All of the European colonial powers lost a ton of their colonies either during or in the immediate aftermath of the second world war, especially the British empire. Australia is even included in that list, becoming independent in 1942. The rest looks like a who's-who of former British colonies and protectorates, the most impactful and arguably the most famous being India in 1947. Also Jordan (1946), Myanmar/Burma (1948), Sri Lanka (1948), Israel (carved out of the British mandate of Palestine, also 1948), and many others in the intervening decades.

The Brits had to dedicate most of their military forces to fighting the war which left their various colonies undermanned. India's independence in particular put into motion the expectation that all of these lands and protectorates could self-determine, and since Britain was A) broke, and B) imperialism was becoming progressively less socially acceptable in Europe, Britain let most of them go. Not least of which because they did not have the manpower to spend keeping those pesky natives down, nor did they have the money to spend paying anyone to do so for them.

America, meanwhile, built huge swathes of industrial capacity during the war which was all still there afterwards, owned significant amounts of debt from the various European powers from loans made and equipment provided before we entered the war fully, essentially owned Japan for a decade or two, and importantly did not suffer any damage to its own infrastructure, factories, or civilian populations due to being separated from both theaters of war by an entire ocean each.

TL;DR: Pretty much everyone involved in the war was left with a country made of rubble and ashes in varying degrees, except the US.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TL;DR: Pretty much everyone involved in the war was left with a country made of rubble and ashes in varying degrees...

... and massive, massive financial debt to the US. America's assistance during the war wasn't free, it came with repayment terms which (in the UK's case at least) crippled economies to America's benefit.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah, the u.s. ended up with ~70% of the world's gold reserves by 1947. In a global economy still mostly using "hard" gold/silver backed currency this was a massive advantage.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also important is the US came in royally late (as in WW1) after the battle of Stalingrad that decided on the eventual winner.
They massively profited from the war without putting much effort in it and made vasal states of Europe.
Something a lot of people don't want to hear.
We learn how we got 'liberated' in school.
In reality we got taken over.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There’s a host of factors, I’ll try to outline the ones I can think off off the top of my head

  1. Industrial base: The UK was bombed during WWII, the US was not. That gave the US a production advantage.
  2. Natural Resources: The UK was dependent upon many resources from their empire while the US was using a lot of their own domestic resources for production.
  3. Decolonialization: the UK’s resource base, as mentioned in the last point, were largely seeking independence in the wake of the war. The US brand of imperialism was more economic in nature than political so they didn’t have the same issue.
  4. Population: it’s tough to outproduce a nation that’s 3x the size (UK pop was about 50 million in 1950; the US was roughly 150 million)
  5. The Marshall plan. It’s hard to overstate how much of a boon rebuilding Europe was for the American economy.
  6. Debt: military goods aren’t cheap. The UK sourced a ton of war material from the US. I just looked it up; the UK made its final WW2 debt payment to the US in 2006. Sheesh!
[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

not the UK who histrionically dominated most of it

I’m sure “histrionically” is a typo, but it still kind of works.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because there were two world wars that mainly took place in Europe. America was never subjected to bombing or invasion, meaning their industrial capacity was never crippled. They came out on top each time and used their influence and strength to become the new superpower.

This is overly simplified of course.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because there were two world wars that mainly took place in Europe.

Hold our Coor's.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

(because Coor's can not legally be called beer outside of the US)

[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Fun fact: Alaska was invaded a little bit by Japan during WW2. On Attu Americans suffered heavy casualties from the weather and basically all of the Japanese force was killed in battle. On Kiska there was a pretty bad skirmish between US and Canadian forces resulting from mistaken identity and a ship hit a stray seamine before they found out the island was abandoned anyway. So a real bad time all around but still not really affecting industrial wellness

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every single European country spent everything they had fighting each other in the first world war, and then every single country in Europe went to the United States for financial loans in order to keep fighting.

1914 to 1918 marked the single largest wealth transfer in human history. By the end of the war, America was holding much of Europe's wealth, which they used to build up their infrastructure and manufacturing base and become, frankly, an economic powerhouse far surpassing what anyone had seen before.

The rest is history.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then, about 20 years later, they did the same thing again, bombing each other flat. Then the US had to bomb the shit out of everyone to prize many countries out of the hands of fascists. Then the EU was created to keep the peace, which fucking worked, at least until the fascists came back and screwed everything up like they always do.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago

Kind of ignoring the Soviets there in terms of "prizing countries out of the hands of fascists" but they were still fighting on the merits of US loans for most of the war so same difference.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 9 points 3 months ago

They massively financially helped and "sustained democracies" that then welcomed USA's products and culture, growing and becoming world powers themselves (like Italy). The B.E. had a similar chance, but way before, and they just did prey on everything they could (like India or Egypt) until they were kicked out.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The US has a military base in every country, our boot is on the neck of the world.

Don't worry tho soon the boot will be Xi's and we will dissappear before we can even think about organizing

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right now it looks like the boot will be on American citizens neck first

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah shit really goes belly up in human society when we allow wealth inequality to grow.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Xi's citizens can at least afford rent. As far as overbearing governments go, I'd certainly prefer the PRC to the USA.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I like not living in not nearly as oppressive of a surveillance state personally

Like if a Chinese citizen typed that on the legal state ran social media police would knock on their door

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would they? Do you know that, or are you guessing based on sentiment floating around online?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, they do

https://www.axios.com/2021/01/30/china-social-media-criticism-arrest

You're allowed to go learn about things instead of blocking out the things you don't like hearing.

If you dissent in China you are intimidated into shutting up.

If you don't stop eventually you have to flee the country or you and your family dissappear.

This is the government that made people invent the term "dissapearing"

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

50 people in three years reminds me of the people arrested in the UK "for exercising their free speech" who were actually trying to start race riots. I'll see if I can find any data on what they were actually saying, but ~17 people a year out of 1.4 billion doesn't seem like a significant percentage of dissenters. If they were really cracking down on all dissent, I'd expect hundreds of thousands of arrests, not 50.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am talking out my ass, but didn't the UK basically overextend itself with its colonies and have to let them loose so it could focus on issues at home?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago

Because the cost of two world wars broke the bank, and the US saw the opportunity to seize global hegemony.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Natural resources, naturally resistant to land wars, capitalism, and trading loans/deficit to fund things that had higher returns than then loan interest.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

because the UK gave up most of that power in the second half of the 20th century, now the UK is a relatively small country (by area and population) that is increasingly isolating itself from the world (Brexit) rather than attempting to influence global politics a lot more than other countries of comparable size, population, and wealth

But the US is slowly losing influence too. In 1990 its side had won the Cold War, but since then other things have happened: 9/11, Iraq War, George W. Bush, the war on terror, Donald Trump; many geopolitical events of the present can be explained (in part) by the fact that the US is losing influence over the world.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As far as I understand it, it's in terms of soft power. With projects such as USAID (United States Agency for International Development) and others like it, USA maintains the status-quo in it's favour; however, the new Republican administration have been shooting themselves in the foot by cutting funding for those programs. Thus, the USAs power is diminished.

Likely also a lot of financial things, especially after/during WWII, but I really don't know enough about that to even guess.

A lot more can be said about the CIAs work in destabilizing "non-American aligned" countries by initiating coups and assassinating/kidnapping democratically elected leaders, but that has arguably done more harm than good to American influence.

*Also it was, for a time, the centre of the world in terms of scientific advancement and urbanism. Los Angeles had what was once the worlds largest tram network that still hasn't been matched by anyone to this day. Melbourne comes close, but it's still a fraction of what LAs was... Goddamn shame.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Post WWII the US had massive increases in economic power by exporting a lot of stuff made with our wartime factories as a starting point. The US also is bigger and had a comparable population to Europe, massive amounts of natural resources, and a culture of economic growth and expansion to rival any of the other colonial powers at their peak.

We built on previous empires and went with economics and soft power instead of directly colonizing.

[–] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Because that was the deal for them to choose sides during WW2, now they're at the end of that deal.

The UK just about lost and probably would have if the US didn't get fully involved, and the big kid on the block need help and then the helper became the leader.

Which country is next, every empire collapses.

[–] Raglesnarf@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my uneducated guess would be guns/military and computers.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WWII left much of Europe and Asia in shambles while the continental US was isolated from the fighting and swooped in to fill the power vacuum.

[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It was simply money all along

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Historically, not histrionically haha