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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"One vote never changed anything," said ten million people.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"me reducing my carbon emissions won't change anything" said ten million people.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm Indigenous and I have family and friends who live throughout the north.

I couldn't believe the recent Ontario election for the representative for Mushkegowuk-James Bay ... the NDP candidate won it by 9 votes

And I have a ton of people in all those northern communities who all don't vote because none of them believe that it is worth it because they are Native.

[–] TheBloodFarts@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Please show them these margins. it's crazy to me how small the number of votes are per riding and really puts everything into perspective

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm in a riding that is consistently held by the conservatives, and not by a small amount. There are something like 40-50k votes cast in my riding and the difference between lib and conservative was about 6k.

I still go out and vote, because some day the 6k difference might be 12 individual votes....

If the conservatives win by a handful of votes, and I didn't vote, I don't think I could forgive myself.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 months ago

I heard that there were some communities where voting closed super early. Under circumstances like that, I can sympathise with people who feel that there's no point in voting; there were people who went out to vote but weren't able to, and that must be so demoralising

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If somebody tells you voting is pointless, they are voting for somebody you wouldn't vote for.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't really think that's the case. If you live in an exceptionally partisan area then there's little impact to voting.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That depends on your voting system.

[–] Noved@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, but this is a Canadian community about the recent Canadian election. The voting system is assumed.

In my riding, if you only had the option of liberal or conservative and a 100% turnout we would still have elected the same blue brick for the 4th time.

Usually this just means I get to vote for whatever party I like the platform enough of/like the leader.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean we've got the same system in the UK tbh.

It's shite, and most of the time you can get a donkey in power if you stick the right colour rosette on it, but last election we did see seats change power that had been held for a century.

I'm not really prepared to shoot anybody to get change. Voting is all we've got.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

Casting a vote is as effective at achieving political objectives as using Purell a couple times a week is at eradicating COVID.

Voting isnt pointless, it's just not nearly enough.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, so the Conservatives won with like 80% in my riding. I voted, but I also wondered why while doing it. Man, I wish we had proportional rep.

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Any time someone claims "my one vote doesn't matter" I reply with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

Yes, there are a lot of elections that are decided by a very small number of votes.

As the saying goes: "The only wasted vote is the one left uncast."

[–] match@pawb.social 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Canada out there making us feel jealous with their "multiple parties" and "meaningful votes"

[–] Hazematman@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm worried our multiple parties could disappear after this election :( I understand why it happened but I hope the trend doesn't continue to a two party liberal vs conservative system in Canada

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

The Bloc isn't going anywhere and the NDP will likely gain seats back next election with a fresh leader, especially if they pick a charismatic one.

[–] hazeydreams@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Ya I don't think it will. Also remember we started with a two-party system. Political parties come and go.

[–] Feyr@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Keep dreaming. There's only 2 parties that matter, Nazis and thieves. Everybody else Is just cosplaying

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

The Dems threw out powerful elected officials like Cuomo and Franken.

Trump's GOP just went to the mat for an actual human trafficker, Andrew Tate.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Those anarchists, tankies, fascists and authoritarians who claim this are just trying to sabotage democracy.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or it's people who feel disenfranchised.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not voting makes it easier for politicians to ignore them.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they feel disenfranchised, they are probably already ignored.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

That’s a self fulfilling prophecy.

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[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

anarchists, tankies, fascists and authoritarians

Spot the odd one out!

I've definitely seen anarchists describe frustration with electoral politics, especially when people limit their political engagement to simply voting once every so many years. However, I've never seen one advocate against voting.

Anarchists are generally aware that, despite elections not being the thing that will overthrow the bourgeoisie, some parties result in less suffering for oppressed peoples than others.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The anarchist argument is that voting somehow endorses the state and is consent to being governed. It's not a very good argument, but it is an argument nevertheless.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I mean I voted but I live in Alberta and don't live in Calgary or Edmonton. Tell me my vote mattered.

Here's a link to the results https://globalnews.ca/news/11130642/canada-election-2025-results-leduc-wetaskiwin/

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That vote increases funding to the area for progressive outreach and causes. You won't change the entire province with a wole new order but you are part of showing that Alberta isn't a lost cause to the left.

Seriously, this shows left wing lobbiests, charities, politicians, etc. That they can do something in the province. In the end all it may mean is easier access to insulin pumps or less cuts to medical services but that definitly matters.

It's easy to look at the big picture and grow hostile but your vote does matter.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

I understand what you're saying, but a 50 point margin is definitely in "lost cause" territory.

I do try to remind myself when seeing results like this that there are still thousands of people who aren't inbred hicks though.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How many people didn't vote in those counties? Did they not vote because they were made believe they got no voice or because they would've voted republican but didn't think they were needed?

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

Yeah, there were a lot of close ones this time.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 9 points 3 months ago

35 difference in Terrebonne riding in QC, Liberals won.

[–] cod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I have family in this riding so I was watching it closely. It was very nerve-racking to see how close it was. It was conservative several times while they were finishing counting all the votes.

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