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this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
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Spoken like a vibe coder
ITT: People who don't know the difference between product, program, and project managers.
As a software guy, I love this. People building and running software products don't need project managers. We ned product owners/managers. It's a product, it has users, it doesn't have an end date.
Management is needed, you let ppl do whtever they want and nothing gets done in any reasonable amount of time
Bullshit. I managed my projects and grants just fine when I was an academic. And until Giant Corporation bought our small ag biotech firm I ran my new product research and development just fine. When giant Corporation bought us I got saddled with someone who did fuck all besides irritate me by telling me what I already knew. As far as I could see they did fuck all. But probably made more money than I did or anyone else in my crew.
venture capitalist
that's not useless, that's actively harmful
This fairy tale still lives? Sheesh, some people really are dense. Like, neutron star kind of dense
I fucking hate comments defending PMs like “you hate PMs if you only worked with bad ones”
Fuck no, they’re the idea guys of tech, they’re useless. Their entire existence depends on engineers not giving enough fucks about the product. They’re the result of a broken team structure. They’re annoying and have no real skills, which is proven by their excitement about AI nowadays. Every PM I’ve came across is hyping up AI, most of them vibe coding, whatever the fuck that means.
Look ain't saying I agree with it
But they're right up there with Scrum Masters. Guides whatever