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Today The UK Parliament Undermined The Privacy, Security, And Freedom Of All Internet Users::The U.K. Parliament has passed the Online Safety Bill (OSB), which says it will make the U.K. “the safest place” in the world to be online. In reality, the OSB will lead to a much more censored, locked-down internet for British users. The bill could empower the government to undermine not just the...

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago (1 children)

HUGE oof. Get your grandparents out of office and put some people who know how technology works in

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I thought they pushed this back a few weeks ago when they realized it wasn't plausible?

Or is it a case of 'the law is here for when it is plausible', which it never will be?

[–] Catalog0904@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You sadly are correct. All they said is the tech doesn’t exist….but we are still making this the law. Dark times…

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So they've basically made a law saying we must all bow down to The Almighty Dragon when he's eventually discovered?

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'll be a cold day in hell before I bow to a Welshman!

[–] ItsABarmcake@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Oh no. They might actually make it onto the flag

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I dont think monkey D dragon wants to restrict internet he is too busy fighting the government

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

The absolutely hilarious thing about this is that all of these MPs that clamoured for this bill because "Won't somebody think of the children!" are up to all sorts of terrible behaviour and a whole bunch of them are on Signal.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why all internet users and not "just" those in the UK?

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A clause of the bill allows Ofcom, the British telecom regulator, to serve a notice requiring tech companies to scan their users–all of them–for child abuse content.This would affect even messages and files that are end-to-end encrypted to protect user privacy. As enacted, the OSB allows the government to force companies to build technology that can scan regardless of encryption–in other words, build a backdoor.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am willing to bet that the overwhelming response from tech to "build a back door into every internet user's E2EE communication globally for us to use" is going to be a big fat "No". The UK market isn't big enough to be making these kinds of demands.

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The reaction is more likely 'It's still impossible. Just like we told you all the other times. Idiots.'

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's technically not impossible, it would just get rid if the entire point of E2EE, which is mentioned in the open response from WhatsApp, Signal, and others:

if implemented as written, could empower Ofcom to try to force the proactive scanning of private messages on end-to-end encrypted communication services, nullifying the purpose of end-to-end encryption as a result and compromising the privacy of all users

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

...this would make E2EE effectively meaningless, because no amount of encryption will protect against getting scanned at the entrance and exit.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

AND it would probably break laws in other countries that actually value privacy or security. It's not like they'd be making a UK-only client for every fucking app or device that uses encrypted communications

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah exactly, it's very, very stupid and not something any service that actually bothered to enable E2EE in the first place would ever seriously consider.

VPNs: exist

At more length: the internet is incredibly complicated and interrelated. It’s actually extremely difficult to draw clear national boundaries in terms of one web service or another, and the result is honestly never going to be 100% accurate.