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The summer is over, schools are back, and the data is in: ChatGPT is mainly a tool for cheating on homework.::ChatGPT traffic dropped when summer began and schools closed. Now students are back, and they're using the AI tool again more.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Terrible article, let me save you all the time. Students using ChatGPT = Cheating , there you go, that's the article.

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[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 60 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Homework is a tool for repetition and drudgery. Kids are in school all day. They shouldn’t need homework.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I hate to say it but there are simply so many subjects to cover in a single day that it's hard to reinforce the lessons learned in class within the given amount of time in a school session. Maybe if schools were structured in a way in which fewer subjects were taught each day would the lessons stick better without the need of homework.

[–] soloner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fr. Just do the homework in school, proctored, if it matters so much to the teacher.

Ultimately the kids will get a test, and it should include an essay section, which they obviously have to write on the spot. I don't really think it matters how much homework they did or didn't do or what tools they used to "cheat", as long as they can perform come test day that's what matters.

[–] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

do you think someone will be capable to write an essay if it is literally the first essay they ever write, since they were using AI all the previous times? This is like reading solved math equations and believing that in a test you'll be able to solve them on the spot, without having tried to solve any by yourself before.

[–] soloner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No! And they'll fail, retake the class, and learn from their mistakes (relying on AI completely instead of using AI for enablement). I see no problems.

This is something our whole generation will learn about and understand, like has already been done for email, social media, the internet, search engines, etc. Students are just the most concentrated because they are young, and this technology applies to solving homework problems.

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[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Homework is a way to get parents involved because there is literally no way to teach kids everything they need to learn at school.

It’s a pitifully failed way to try and get parents involved because in the end the vast majority literally don’t give a shit.

My sister is a teacher and she’s constantly on about how little time parents put into their kids education. Note that she teaches affluent kids, I’d assume this is ten times worse in homes where both parents work or single parent homes with few resources.

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[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There shouldn't be homework to begin with. Kids go to school FULL TIME, not including commute.

[–] foo@programming.dev 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My senior secondary board believes that students. should spend 6 hours a week per subject on top of the hours they are physicians in class. It is insane

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Whoa, they make those kids see patients during class?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

what is a senior secondary board? This is more or less the average amount of time I spent on work outside of class in College.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree with you for most things except math. For math and math based courses you need to practice a ton to get it.

[–] stufkes@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Reading and writing are no exception. You also need practice to learn foreign languages. It's not just math

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[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Clearly an article written to fit a headline rather than the other way around. They talk about use in education settings as a sign that the use cases are limited, despite accounting for only a 12% increase.

In other news, pencil use is up 100% in the last month, signaling that pencils have limited use cases and are only good for cheating on homework.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Bro the capability of a pencil is a far better medium to expresses concepts. One could argue that a pencils ability to express shades of grey exceeds the capability of the pen. In some ways the pen has an effect of finality.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The data is in: Business Insider is mainly a tool.

[–] float@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In many countries, schools only care about grades. I was pretty good at getting good grades by understanding what will be tested and minimizing the effort to get there. I would've totally used ChatGPT to do my homework.

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[–] pc_admin@aussie.zone 17 points 2 years ago

Homework shouldn't even exist anymore, it's antiquated and gives kids no work/life balance. (It might actually be a conspiracy to condition them to being worked to death.)

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

However, if usage is only recovering because students are back, that may be a bad sign because it suggests there's a limited range of use cases for ChatGPT and other AI-powered chatbots.

Or maybe kids have always been the early adopters for computer tech?

[–] Water1053@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

At work when I write certain emails or code snippets I'll paste them into ChatGPT and ask it to make the email sound "more professional" or "optimize this code." ChatGPT also talks to me like SHODAN from System Shock 😆

[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hope you know what you're doing. That's a good way to share company secrets with outsiders, also it's uncertain whether you're even legally allowed to use the resulting code.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

And how do your propose to stop it? The cats out of the bag, you need to design better homework.

[–] IcecreamMelts@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Right?!

Don't tell students to write a book report, have them present one. Ask them live questions about their knowledge. It's also a great skill to have, knowing how to present.

It's so simple.

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago

I don't understand why anyone wants to stop it. I'm a teacher and since ChatGPT came out, my job got so much easier. I will say, ahead of my examples, that I proofread everything it creates and make sure all the facts are straight before submitting anything, but it's still a lot quicker.

I can use it to provide feedback on students work, I use it to write up lesson plans and schemes of work, I use it to draft emails, I use it to give me ideas for activities etc.

99.9% of the time there are parts I need to edit or delete due to irrelevance but it's done the bulk of the work. This is the same for students work, if they don't proofread it they will most likely hand in incorrect work.

[–] specterspectre@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Handwritten assignments are going to make a comeback. It's hard to cheat through an essay you have to write on the spot.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I mean just make homework worthless and the cams everything.

Pretty simple. College professors have been doing this forever

[–] nymwit@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

discussion in here looking like old r/teenagers with predictable takes

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

It's a godsend honestly. I just went back to school at damn near 40 and with a full time job. ChatGPT has made getting through my school work so much easier and faster. I would have never had the patience or time to do college work without it.

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 7 points 2 years ago

Trends don’t confirm hypotheses like this one. And they don’t appear to have the data for a proper causal analysis. At best, they have an interesting data point.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Only if you don't have the patience to use Chatgpt properly.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


ChatGPT was supposed to be the fastest-growing tech product in history, so this reversal got the technosphere theorizing as to why the chatbot wasn't so hot anymore.

Then there's the amusing comparison with interest in Minecraft, a popular video game that kids love to play when they're not using ChatGPT to cheat on their homework.

However, if usage is only recovering because students are back, that may be a bad sign because it suggests there's a limited range of use cases for ChatGPT and other AI-powered chatbots.

Mark Shmulik, a top internet analyst at Bernstein, made this point at the start of the summer, when usage fell.

In other words, if a big part of ChatGPT growth is driven by cheating students, this means the technology, or at least the chatbot format, may not be the dominant computing platform of the future.

OpenAI did release this guide for teachers at the end of August, which suggests ways to use ChatGPT in the classroom, including prompts and lesson plans.


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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I feel this is a political issue on the understanding of ai. It is a powerful tool and all powerful tools garner a certain amount of fear. Ultimately the protests against ai will fail and if history has taught us anything that protesting efficiency will be futile.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yes it's a better search engine... Google and the like are shitting their pants that ClosedAI are keeping the users for themselves

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