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Pressure is building on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. The Washington Post first reported and the News Hour confirmed that Hegseth had the unclassified messaging app Signal installed on a computer in his Pentagon office. All of this is unfolding as chaos is mounting at the Pentagon with the firings of top Hegseth aides.

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[–] deadkennedy@lemm.ee 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it’s got to be a starlink.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’d bet money it’s this.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

funny joke, but it probably doesn't matter. the most powerful arsenal in the world is kept safe for a fucking reason. this is just so much more beyond malice or incompetence.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The DoD provides its unclassified network with an Internet connection and the software it needs to do the job, while keeping this baselined and secured (or as secure as an Internet connection can be). Dirty Internet is just a commercial line with zero safeguards. This is so far beyond accidentally bringing your phone or smartwatch into a SCIF. He asked for his computer in the Pentagon to bypass all network security otherwise in place

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

..and that request was either granted or he just did it anyway. and it wasn't caught. or it was, but he's the boss. this is all just giving "this is what you get when you put all the bullies in charge of the school" to me.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

he just did it anyway

He didn't just do it anyway. I doubt he knows which ends of a patch cable goes in the wall, and which in the computer.

Someone who knew what he was doing, and why it was a terrible idea, verging on criminal, did it.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago

This is absolutely fucking insane lol

Dude’s texting his buddies on an unsecured connection, using an unsecured device, using an unapproved and un-auditable (and thus illegal) medium of communications.

And there are still people who think these absolute fucking travesties are “good on defense”

Hold on to your butts, everyone

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure unclass networks are allowed inside classified spaces...there are restrictions on how it can be installed, physically, but they are certainly allowed.

Signalgate needs more attention, for sure, but this sounds like a nothingburger.

Now the real problem isn't that it's there, but if it's actually "unsecured", as in nothing inspecting outbound traffic. Exfiltrating data from a classified network is easy peasy then, especially if it's in the comfort of your office.

For example, the unclass system usually should have removable media restrictions so that classified data can not be easily transferred onto it. If that's not in place then it's potentially a very big deal.

Edit: wow, bunch of people don't know how the world of classified spaces work. Not everything is a smoking gun. Everybody that has an office has an unsecured internet connection with access to Signal. It's in your pocket. Generally though, cell phones aren't allowed in classified spaces. Hence the need for unclassified systems.

Signalgate is bad. Having an unclass internet connection in a classified space is normal. Hegseth is a drunken piece of shit and a threat to national security and soverignity, but on its own, this is literally nothing. That is all.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You are absolutely right.

They try to spin it as "trying to get around no personal electronics allowed in the SCIF", but what if it's a low-side DoD machine?

The biggest issue I see is if signal isn't vetted to run on DoD computers, and quite frankly that's a slap on the wrist at most.

For reference, you can do as much damage as you could from signal by logging into Gmail.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

My biggest thing is just the way that everything is treated as a smoking gun. This is what got us Trump on the first place. It's good to question controversial actions by elected and appointed people, or really anybody...but skepticism requires context, otherwise it's just a conspiracy theory, and we've seen where that leads.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine anonymous hacks it and closes it off from Russia

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Gotta admits that would be funny