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How did they form? What are their specific traits? Stereotypes (even untrue, if marked as such)?
If cultural differences coincide with geography, please mention in, too.

In the questions about weird things people from different continents do somebody pointed out, that Europeans have little knowledge of this, so please fix my ignorance.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)
  • East coast: old money, lots of drinking, cold weather, violence, power, liberalism, deciduous forests
  • Southeast: southern hospitality, shithole school systems, conservativism, sweet tea, food influenced by french cuisine, nascar, lush vegetation
  • Southwest: cowboys, ranch homes, cultural mixing with Mexico, drugs, art, desert and mountains
  • West coast (basically california): hollywood, progressivism, new money, asian-pacific food influences, hippies, poop, surfing
  • Northwest: best weed, created grunge genre, rainy, dismal, chill, northern european food influences, rainforests
  • North-middle: liminal space, copy-pasted terrain, independent/libertarian, wheat, sparsely populated
  • Midest: mix of conservative and liberal, plains farmland, cozy houses, desperate to define itself culturally (see Chicago architectural publications), corn, soybeans, and pigs, neutral accent, german and polish food influence

source: memory

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Southeast: southern hospitality

Should be "southern hospitality" in quotation marks. Rudest bunch you'll ever meet unless you are exactly like them.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Nah we're never rude, they're all compliments.

Well bless your heart, I would never have the courage to wear something like that in public like you do.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

Southern Hospitality, as long as you don't get to know them, and you're not black

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I’m literally talking about hospitality, as in the actions in the home, that others would call the hospitality industry.

I mean when you arrive they’ll offer you some tea and the furniture will look a certain way, and they’re likely to have a tray they carry those glasses on, and it’s already made, and there’s a whole set of food you traditionally entertain with, etc.

That whole set of behaviors is what I’m calling southern hospitality. Nothing beyond that.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The South(east) as a whole should not be lumped in with the Cajuns.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Louisiana and especially New Orleans are really their own thing. They just caucus with the South.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was thinking specifically of an apple cobbler recipe I once did that had me dotting the whole pan with butter after the end, which I thought was a French technique. Turns out cobbler’s got English origins not French.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, okay. Yeah, IIRC Scotland also contributed a lot of the really grease-heavy dishes to the no-spice parts of the South.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about breading on fish and chicken? Where does that originate?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

I don't know, and a quick search doesn't turn up anything. If they had moved over from Reddit I'd say it's a good question for AskHistorians.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

West coast (basically california): hollywood, progressivism, new money, asian-pacific food influences, hippies, poop, surfing

One of these is not like the others.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, most of the real hippies moved towards the rockies a few decades ago

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 2 years ago

This is pretty accurate.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

As an American I pretty much agree this is decently accurate

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I recommend https://colinwoodard.com/books/american-nations/ It's a well written source on this subject. Woodard details eleven groups each with a shared cultural background, with names like New Netherland, Tidewater, El Norte, and the Left Coast. The Wikipedia page for the book has a broad outline of the ideas if you want an overview; but, the book is well worth a read if this is an area of interest for you.

[–] kozel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I will check that.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm going to check this out, thanks for the recommendation

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I couldn’t resist… But Wikipedia should have tons of info on exactly this.

[–] foo@withachanceof.com 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You know, you're never going to change that map if you tell everyone living in one of those red states that their home is part of "dumbfuckistan."

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I currently live here. I’m losing hope.

[–] audrbox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

I agree to an extent, but also as an Oklahoman it's getting harder and harder to argue with this label :/

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

About 40% of Wisconsin is trying its damnedest to join Dumbfuckistan. Glad we have that blanket of reason surrounding us and giving us hope.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

About 40% of all of those blue states are doing the same. It's only more evident in Wisconsin because of our gerrymandering and re-electing Russian Ron.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I thought it was just a giant retirement home for old white people

edit: nvm thinking of Iowa lol

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not from USA so I won't answer your question directly (other posters are better for that). Instead I'll point out a few things, based on knowledge of Linguistics plus other stuff:

  • Cultural differences are somewhat objective, but how you split the cultures is subjective. As such don't be surprised if different maps show different divisions.
  • Language usually play a huge role, and isoglosses are often used to demarcate cultures. However, people shouldn't confuse dialect+language with culture, as it's perfectly possible to lump together two populations of different dialects as the same culture, or to split a single dialect into multiple cultures. Also, dialects themselves tend to be subjective, like the above.
  • Geography does play a role too, but it boils down to interaction between settlements and identity. For example you're more likely to contact the guy in the other city (thus share the same culture) if there's just plains between your cities, instead of a big fucking mountain.
  • A good place to look at the cultural divisions is the original settlements. Based on that I think that it'll be easier to demarcate cultures in Eastern USA than in the West.
  • More often than not cultures don't give a fuck about government borders. So don't be surprised if some cultures grab "chunks" of USA plus either Mexico or Canada.
[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The cultural regions are New England, the Mid-Atlantic, the South, the Midwest, the Mountain West and the Pacific.

Politically the South and Midwest are conservative. New England, Pacific, and Mountain regions are liberal. The Mid-Atlantic is a mix.

Cultural differences are largely based on popular religions or lack of religion.

That's about it, Americans are pretty much all the same no matter what state or region you are from.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Found the East Coast guy lol

I would never think to break out Mid-Atlantic into its own thing, and I would never think to combine California and the Pacific Northwest.

Just shows how regional bias plays into what you think of as "cultural regions".

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I'm in the west.

[–] glomag@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Recent political shifts have substantially pitted "heartland" (Central states) against "coastal elites"; "heartland" is depicted as rural/traditionalist/uneducated whereas the coasts are rich and intellectual (with negative connotations for both)

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Anti-intellectualism is a plague. Plus we're not all elites over here!

[–] Thisfox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

It seemed every time we drove 100km, the yanks had a different name for cider (the alcoholic fermented drink, not fruit juice, although probably that too, seeing as "cider" sometimes meant nonfermented fresh fruit juice), a different name for fizzy drink and a different name for sausage...... and so on. The boundaries were definitely not along state borders. Etymology maps of the US must look peculiar.