Niccol travels regularly from his home in Newport Beach, California, to Starbucks' headquarters in Seattle, Washington, via private jet. Each 2,000-mile round-trip commute releases nearly nine tons of carbon dioxide.
The National Center for Public Policy Research's Free Enterprise Project's director Stefan Padfield pointed out the discrepancy of policy and practice during his presentation of Proposal 8 requesting an annual report on emissions congruency. He noted that each round trip made by Niccol "is roughly the annual energy-consumption footprint of the typical American household."
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It’s not even just super rich. I used to work for a company that did about 200m in sales and the boss was taking a private jet at lease once a week. Then he laid off 20% of his company in 2024 instead of flying first class.
Name and shame!
They’ll risk increased chance of crashing and lose hundreds of productive employees than rub elbows with hoi polloi.
Makes you think.
And yet, it's the Average Joe's and Jane's fault for not buying EVs.
Haven't bought stuff from sbux in the last few months because of their union busting and DEI rollbacks. Seems like it was the right choice.
I don't buy from them because their coffee is bad.
I don't think they sell coffee, just like subway doesn't sell 12 inch sandwiches.
They sell coffee flavored sugar water.
Venti (20 oz) Peppermint White Chocolate Mocha: 580 calories
Big mac: 590 calories
The big Mac is probably better for your body. I mean less bad. Don't wanna really say "healthier" but I'm sure you get my meaning.
I Googled it and the bullshit Ai summary is REALLY going to bat for starfucks. First it compared a grande mocha to a whole big Mac combo (480 vs 1100 cal) , the when I specified "venti" and "sandwich" it decided to make the mocha a nonfat milk with no whip which brought it down to 400.
Regardless, 72g of sugar in that friggin thing.
I relied too heavily on chatgpt search.
12oz Peppermint White Chocolate Mocha is 360cal so 20oz is 600cal.
It got the 590cal big mac correct
I wanted to compare the nutrition info directly but it's a hassle on mobile so I had to try to sucker the Google ai into doing it. It didn't work.
Pretty sure the mocha is on par with or worse than the big Mac in every way except sodium.
My days of not purchasing anything from Starbucks are definitely coming to a middle
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
"You don't buy from Starbucks because of social issues.
I don't buy from Starbucks because their coffee is bad.
We are not the same."
Petes is soooo much better.
I've never seen a Pete's coffee shop, I thought it was just a supermarket brand.
They have physical locations too. I'm on the east coast so they're not as popular here. Major city though.
Used to have like 6 locations but they're down to 2 now that I know of in my state.
You can also just aim for local shops instead of chains.
It’s a Bay Area company. They aren’t all over the U.S. According to a map on their website there are 286. Approximately 47.5% are located in the Bay Area.
It’s a Bat Area company
Gotham?
... are located in the Bay Area
Ohh... Way less cool
Look Starbucks owes Peet’s everything. That company started off buying from Peet’s.
Bad is an understatement! I compare it to Fosters beer, it’s piss water. Had it twice in my life, never again…
You should try Dunkin Donuts coffee. That's really bad coffee. Starbucks isn't that bad, it's just roasted so bad to make it consistent. Can't tell the difference when it's burned to shit, and most people order what are basically milkshakes with a bit of coffee in them anyway.
Boyd's is the worst coffee. Not sure they have coffee shops anymore. Starbucks is always 'burnt' tasting.
Being able to feel pious about it is a nice bonus, though, lol
Well they have been caught multiple times buying from slave labor farms in Brazil, buying from a farm with child labor in Guatemala and possibly contributing to the decline of commodity prices in 2019 (which was under a $1).
His commute was pointed out before his first day on the job. They don't care.
Mario might 😬
Yep. I remember the news article calling him out for not wanting to move and taking a private jet to work instead.
No repercussions at all. People are shocked when he actually did the things he said??
I already never go there, but now I can have a chip on my shoulder about it.
I'll join you under the smug cloud.
Mug cloud?
Smog cloud
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Boycott and talk to others around you as to why you are boycotting.
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Create fake amazing resumes, apply for high-level jobs at Starbucks, Amazon, etc.
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Waste their time with interviews, then bail out. Tell them you changed your mind because they have a toxic reputation.
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If you already work for one of these corporations, sabotage their operations. There's manuals out there on how to conduct sabotage, but it can be as simple as relaying the wrong day or time for meetings to waste everyone's time, or finding things that are not exactly according to policy and making a big deal about the importance of following policy to the letter, etc.
I have a plan at $job that will reduce our CO2 emissions a year by ~330 tonnes.
Almost makes you wonder why bother sometimes
I like my coffee but I don't find it hard to avoid Starbucks. Plus they're not even nice places to go. They've been enshitified big time.
The National Center for Public Policy Research's Free Enterprise Project's director Stefan Padfield pointed out the discrepancy of policy and practice during his presentation of Proposal 8 requesting an annual report on emissions congruency. Padfield suggested, "Perhaps the problem is not the related business practices, but rather the ill-conceived decision to wrap the company in unrealistic climate goals."
The National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPPR), founded in 1982, is a self-described conservative think tank in the United States. -Wikipedia
Group calls out discrepancy between a businesses actions and their stated goals. Then goes on to say that maybe the goals were too unrealistic. Hmm, I manage to make it to my job everyday without using a private jet.
If I get offered a job in an office I’m gonna demand a private jet, too.
“What do you mean ICs don’t get private jets?!”
Those who do the actual work, should get the actual plane!
This is old news, no idea how this asshole still has a job.
If only they'd adopt work from home instead of fighting against it 🙃