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"So to preface this is posted in literature.cafe’s meta community but this question is primarily aimed at generally anyone in the lemmyverse who is NOT a cisgender man no matter what instance they may be in. The purpose of this thread is to present a stage for conversation for those willing to contribute, and although cisgender men are not excluded I kindly ask you to be mindful of the fact what this thread is meant for and try to avoid talking over others here. If you are a cisgender man interested in learning and seeing how lemmy can improve like I am: welcome. For those who are here to cause issues or talk over others though, you will be promptly removed.

I do not know the demographic data of lemmy, but I would wager a large portion are male. And over the past few weeks I have witnessed women on numerous occasion discuss their discomfort on here. Reddit very much had a very “bro-y” feeling culture for many, that felt like a barrier to entry to many women. With lemmy, there’s a potential to break this. But the answer really is how? Lemmy has begun to develop into its own culture already independent of Reddit quite rapidly, and it’s been awesome to see but I am wondering if there’s a way we can push it a step further and implement ways to make the platform more welcoming to women than Reddit previously did.

Thoughts?"

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[–] Cris_Color@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Its debatable/unclear whether I count as a cis man, but I think a really big one is being willing to call something out as being out of line, or disrespectful to another person. You have to be willing to contribute to a culture that doesn't accept disrespect towards populations other than the majority of the platform, and that holds people here to a higher standard than most places on the internet

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe don't gender people all the time?

In his post OP said...

He didn't say that x should...

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[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, not a woman, and not trying to talk over anyone. But perhaps something that could be done is a "women of ____" community on each instance. For instance, !WomenOf@literature.cafe, !WomenOf@Startrek.website, et cetera that's modded in a similar way to witches vs the patriarchy on reddit. A space for women, modded by women. Men aren't banned or anything, but the space is intentionally woman-oriented, be they cis or trans. Each instance could make their own, which would mean dozens of such communities, some generalist, some focused on specific issues, fandoms or interests. At the very least, it may help bring more women to lemmy, and more women on lemmy should help prevent the bro-yness.

Again, though, not a woman, so please do point out if that feels segregationy or something, that's not the intent.

[–] BolsheWitch@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

we’ve got !womenby@hexbear.net here although it doesn’t get used much. it’s the mirror of !menby@hexbear.net.

both have “enby” in the name to be inclusive of any enby folk who happen to lean closer to either binary.

[–] BatsAreRats@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Good post, also ur username goes hard 👍

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago
[–] D61@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

So, I don't think it was just the Hexbear mods going full last-sight all on their own that helped calm things down in that neck of the Fediverse.

The mod that kinda started it all (while making some bad calls) had a point when they got tired of the userbase just letting stuff happen and started a purge. It was kinda our fault for letting shitty stuff happen without pushback from the user base or worse, the userbase making excuses for the bad stuff.

It will be up to the posters and commenters to report, question, draw attention to, etc any accounts/posts/comments that go too far. This doesn't mean sitting on the report button and making it a moderators problem. Its the userbase that is the fist line of the immune system for the community, not the mods. Building up enough of a raport with the other users and having the confidence to push back on the edge cases is essential to creating the proper "vibe". From there the moderators should be able to do their thing with more confidence and slightly less stress.

So... try not to let the "just asking questions", "but my freeze-peach !?!?!", "can you take a joke joker-gaming" type of stuff go without push back for long. It creates divisions and damages confidence in the users who want to help keep things properly maintained but aren't super confident in spotting/engaging in debatelord stuff.

Personally, I dig the emojis. :Fryfry is a good one as a signal that a comment or post is pushing the boundary a bit. A mindful person might reassess their post/comment and back off if they're not trying to cause problems and if they aren't mindful, it can be a signal for some of the more powerful posters/commenters to pay attention here.

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