If god never makes mistakes then trans people aren't a mistake. Dude should stop questioning gods will, seems a bit blasphemous.
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Thank you! This is exactly what I came to the comments section to say.
Honestly, the greatest argument against intelligent design is the human body. If I was created by a god, he's either an idiot or actively malicious.
Erogenous zones in the waste tube. Also religious people: putting things in the waste tube for pleasure is also a sin.
An all powerful being that controls energy, time and matter itself ..... decides to make a perfect biological human body with an autonomous identity, intelligence and self control ... that breaks down and dies in less than 80 years .... then encourages these individuals to procreate (but not to enjoy it, even though he designed it to be very enjoyable)
Isn't the god made the human in his own image? Does it mean that the God is badly designed too...
God does not have a body, obviously. This is not what is meant by this.
Well then what the fuck is meant by that
The highest part of man is the one that is closest to god. The soul, clearly. The soul can partially grasp divine attributes like morality, knowledge, righteousness, etc.
That makes sense, I always just assumed that most christians took it literally, ie humans physically looking like their god, a sort of patriarchal egoism. Thus paintings of god in the form of a human man.
I would add, that the old testament has been interpreted allegorically since before Christianity, since in the Roman Empire, Jews that were civilised had some difficulty accepting the rather nonsensical elements of the archaic books.
This sort of makes sense. The bible is a collection of books that are very different in style, so it makes sense that some are understood poetically, or allegorically, while others are quite literal.
So these seemingly silly elements of the bible were literally never understood literally by Christians, until the reformation, at least.
So while it may seem like modern Christians are trying to reinterpret the bible to avoid contradictions, that are caused by the idiocy of the ancient and medieval people, the reality is literally the exact opposite.
Christianity is a child of the Jewish mysticism and Greek rationality. For someone that understands philosophy the idea of a god with a body, that looks like a human is absurd.
God is not in space, not in time, since according to Christian theology, these were created with the universe, so they are not independent from the creation. Before that(not in the temporal sense), there was only God.
Every time I see someone talk about intelligent design I just think about how our throat has two tubes: in one of them you have to put stuff in so you don't die, but if you put even a little bit of stuff in the other one you die.
Well, the human body is imperfect due to the fall, it was only perfect in the Garden of Eden.
Mfw eating an apple makes a nerve loop around the aorta.
Giraffes must have fallen far.
Richard Dawkins is a schmuck but that one time he dissected a giraffe on TV was pretty fucking cool.
He what? That sounds horrible. But also a bit funny:
Cuts open a giraffe, blood on his hands as he just tore out its aorta: "THERE IS NO GOD!"
What about genetic disorders like type 1 diabetes, cystic fibrosis, or Huntington's disease? Nobody gatekeeps people with those conditions because "God makes no mistakes" - yet clearly, mistakes were made.
"Those weren't mistakes! God does what he wants, we never said he was nice."
If I did believe in God I would tend to agree, God is a massive piece of shit.
OK, sure - but I mean when a type 1 diabetic gets a diagnosis and begins hormone therapy (i.e. taking insulin), it is not that different than a trans woman getting a diagnosis and beginning hormone therapy, yet Christians rarely tell a diabetic they shouldn't take insulin, but are quick to view the trans woman is immoral for taking estrogen. (Admittedly there are some Christians who might believe any medical interventions are wrong, but I assume they are not representative.)
And yes, the problem of evil is a thing, Christians believe God is "omnibenevolent" (as well as being omnipotent, all powerful, and omniscient, all knowing) - this generates a kind of problem, in that no God that is all good, all powerful, and all knowing could exist given what we know about the world.
I generally take the trans hate from them as more of a product of political manipulation given to them in a wrapper of religion to justify it.
I fucking hate propagandists so much...
agreed, it's politics more than religion - though tbh religion and politics are to intertwined it's unclear if it's possible to separate them ...
and yes, I hate the manipulation of people for the sake of harmful agendas that seem to prioritize the needs of the few over the needs of the many.
However, that just means we need effective propaganda that goes in the other direction, that promotes the well-being and rights of all, etc.
It's definitely a lesser extent but yes they do.
The people that are rude about that just say they've sinned, and they brought this on themselves.
Source: friend has cf.
Christians tell people with CF or diabetes that God doesn't make mistakes and their condition is not real as a result? It sounds like in the case of your friend the Christians are just saying the friend deserves CF because they are sinful and fallen, but not that CF doesn't exist.
No it was "God doesn't make mistakes, therefore you must deserve to suffer."
But that's also what ive heard from Christians about anything gay/trans. They dont say its fake, they say god made things the way they are on purpose and those urges and desires are temptations. They make it into a test of their faith.
"Oh you have CF? You must have sinned a lot." (My friend, who is atheist) "yeah, actually. Dont really care though". "Oh well if you pray every day and atone and blah blah God will save you, hes just waiting for you to reach out to him."
"Oh you wanna dress like a girl? No no, this is a test, god wants to know you're faithful. Repent for these thoughts and pray every day and atone [...]".
Any failures or faults are sin, at least with the Christians I know in my area. Gay, trans, genetic disorders, cancer, whatever.
So these ones, at least, admit gay/trans people exist. One of them even openly admitted to having those urges "once" but said he prayed the gay away.
I got a strong feeling he secretly hates himself in a few ways. The alcoholism was a big hint.
The short of it is "It's not a mistake if it's a test."
Did you not see that girl who died of measles because she wasn't vaxxed? That was a few weeks ago. Parents were all like "don't vaccinate your kids, god has a plan" after still.
These people are liable to kill you faster to complete god's design or whatever rather than help you in any way. Actual psychopaths feeling justified cause of "god".
Reminds me of that story of a family in a flood and helicopters.
For those who want to know which story, the short version is family house in a flood, family make it to the roof. Boat comes, another, another they send them away "God will save me" a helicopter comes, is told to go. The family die. God tells them they fucked up 'cause He sent three boats and a helicopter which they refused
I hate antivaxxers. As a kid I couldn't get my first dose of measles vaccine because I was sick, and wasn't vaccinated until my 5 year old vaccinations. I was sick with measles, but was okay.
I got measles because vaccination wasn't widespread then and there. The same happened to other kids and they weren't as lucky.
This kid was betrayed by their community, denied vaccines that would have kept them alive because people lied to them
Ed. Swipeographical errors
Those are the work of the devil, obviously.
Shame their god isn't more powerful than their devil
600 never makes mistakes? 60D never makes mistakes? That's a really big die... Oh it's God!
SAME! Honestly who writes a G like that?
Walt Gisney
no it's walt disnep. I will die on this hiII.
god makes no mistakes, sure!
he gives us tests and hurdles to overcome, sure!
he gives us the intellect to develop science and medicine which bring us closer to understanding god!
by handling his tests with grace and strength of character, using the tools he gifted us we are gaining a better understanding of his plan. to not use the gifts he gave us to live our lives to the fullest, and assume we know better would be the true travesty
… right?
……… RIGHT????????
Its always funny to use Christianity's logic against themselves.
Christians when trans people: God doesn't make mistakes and you're being blasphemous by altering the way you dress.
Christians when poor eyesight: You should wear glasses. God wouldn't want you to suffer.
Also Christians in case of terminal illness: You should not choose euthanasia, because in your weakness, God is strong.
The letters are right there! How did you mistranscribe "you're" to "your"? This is a comic, there aren't even a lot of words you have to copy.
the reason is because english is a joke and i refuse to respect it
i respect your view of the english language more than i respect the english language, so :P
As a former grammar Nazi and English native, I concur.
Edit: *gramer *english *conquer
Thanks for the transcription. I was really wondering who 60D was
"god never makes mistakes" says the person whose beliefs come from a book with two very well known occasions of mistakes god made and proceeded to punish the entire earth (first sin in genesis is seen as the first bad thing ever, and it caused everything bad that animals do to start happening; the entire story of noa's ark is that god made the mistake of creating humans and the only thing he could think of was to drown literally everything except for 2 of each animal. neither fixed anything, only made it all even worse)
God loves my trans homies.
hav u considered that god made me, who did a thing - sooooooo lik,.,-. since im not a mistake i cnt mak mistakes---