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“We understand the concern and emotion surrounding the officer-involved shooting that occurred,” he said, adding, “We are also aware of the video circulating online, which shows only one angle. The full picture requires careful review of all facts and evidence.”
Yeah, whatever.
As always, ACAB.
"Itt shows only one angle" is such an asshole thing to say. Investigation is a good thing, but they ruin it by saying stupid shit.
Also getting sick of seeing that obfuscating language: "office involved shooting" as if there was a shootout that involved officers and not officers being the only ones with guns and the only reason shooting ever happened.
There's only one angle. These cowards shot a disabled child through a chain link fence
Eos.
Murder, plain and simple. They immediately showed up and opened fire within less than 30 seconds.
They simply weren't in danger. There was a fence between them and The victim.
Remember if you've got a problem and call the police, now you have two problems.
The poor 12 year old boy that called the police, I bet he won't make that mistake again. He will be traumatized for life and scared of the police.
His 19-year-old son, Bridger, called 911 and reported it as a domestic dispute in a backyard.
“This was really traumatic for me to watch, for me and my son to be a part of,” Andres said. “My son was the one that called the 911 with the hopes of helping the family deal with the situation that was going on. He had no idea that what was going to transpire.”
How the hell does anyone at this point have no idea what was going to transpire?
~~Yeah, 12 year old should know that calling 911 for help is literally murder! /s
He's a literal child and was scared. He called for help. It's gross to blame him or even imply he should know calling for help on the same line you call for fire and ambulances will cause an attempted murder.~~
ETA: I don't know where I came up with him being 12, but the point about calling for help and the murder hobos being the same line as the helpers still stands. Blaming a 19 year old for calling 911 because the cops decided to try to murder someone is still gross.
I've been teaching my kids to not call the police their entire lives. We don't watch Paw Patrol or Sheriff Labrador. I've been telling them that the police are here to protect the businesses, not us, and that police can get away with just killing people.
It absolutely sucks but I don't want my kids to be either of the ones in this story. Fuck the police, all of them.
You are actively throwing away the persons life when you call the police on them.
What kind of justification is there for emptying a whole magazine into a child? Even if the kid is running straight at you, legitimately threatening your life with a knife in a situation that I'm honestly struggling to justify here, a single bullet would do the trick.
This is the same group of "warriors" (cops , i understand these are separate states) that mag dumped after an acorn fell on their car.
Not only that, but he was on the other side of a flipping fence.
Like hunting an animal in a cage, Don Jr style.
Here's your answer:
My friends and I categorically refuse to visit states in red. During the pandemic, their refusal to use masks and vaccines resulted in their hospital capacity reaching critical conditions, and they had to export a ton of their sick and dying to Washington and Montana, among other states. This deferred care for resident cancer patients in those states.
Guess how they thanked the states that bailed their asses out come November 5th? If you guessed "crushing tariffs", you guessed right.
There are a few good souls there, but they have a disproportionately high number of extremely evil people.
In a situation where you're using lethal force (e.g. a gun.) you aren't doing the minimum or doing disabling shots or sharpshooting the knife out of their hand, you are stopping the threat. This means center mass (torso) shots to minimize the chance that you miss and hit someone behind or near them (Like the two people were near the kid.), and you shoot until they stop being a threat. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug (and whatever other potential drugs folks can be on.) and can let folks shrug off a bullet if it isn't instantly killing them, hence the training on lethal force is shoot until they stop being a threat.
That said: Given that he hadn't even cleared the fence they had time to back up. IMO this was a preventable shooting and they likely could have had one officer pepper spray or tase him (Both have about 15 foot range.) while the others kept guns on him.
All these cops go into work itching for a kill.
The station gives out an Arby's coupon every week to whoever scores the most kills.
There’s an effing fence. There was no person and no cop at any risk. How the ef would any reasonable person shoot?
Even if it were an actual aggressive person, actively threatening them, how would any person think deadly force was ok, on the other side of the effing fence?
And the dispatcher had said the kid was so impaired he couldn’t walk and may have stabbed himself? How is that a threat? Behind a fence?
Even if they’re a trigger happy moron looking for an excuse to murder “one of them”, how did they get to that point?
If they were reasonable people, then they would not be cops.
There should be some kind of a fear test for cops. Most of these shootings happen because of the great fear the cop has. The rest of the cops just want to shoot you dead. So I guess there should be some kind of "I like to shoot people dead" test as well.
Hi. Former officer of the Texas department of criminal Justice. They train fear into you. This is the intended response. This is the optimal outcome. This is exactly what he was trained to do. Half of the training is watching videos of police officers not reacting quickly or violently enough and dying and being told "always act first and monopolize the violence in the situation". Once again, I am a former officer of the Texas department of criminal justice. This is my personal experience.
ACAB. Fuck the police. It bastardizes everyone. Including me.
The process also starts with eliminating anyone with a high IQ, so we end up with the dumbest motherfuckers in town, with authority issues.
Then they promote from within, drawing from an already limited IQ pool. Ever watch the local Police Chief talk on the news, and sound like a total dumbass? Its because departments promote for political connections, and intelligence is NEVER a factor.
It’s worse than that as a lot of their “training” is designed to make them feel like they’re warriors in constant danger. They are too stupid to ignore it and it’s all they get since training and the funding for it is so awful and unregulated.
Cops in the US are just running around constantly pissing themselves and it barely takes anything to put them over the edge.
yeah, many departments still get trained on "stockholm syndrome" despite it being thoroughly debunked and only ever part of pop-psych. in fact, the only "experts" that ever pushed it WERE police training "experts". the whole situation in stockholm was competely misrepresented. the women didn't love the bank robber, they just feared that the actions the police were taking would cost them their lives and thus begged them to do things differently. the police are the ones that locked them in a bank vault with the attacker. this, among a few other misreports by said police, resulted in a media circus about these women falling in love and not wanting to be saved. the idea that the police could be dangerous to these women was inconceivable to the public at the time.
it was a classic case of the police bungling a rescue and nearly costing multiple innocent lives to try to protect capitol, then ending up causing more damage than the thief was going to steal anyway. the women involved were barely studied after, but it was quickly concluded that the police were wrong about the women and that this syndrome they named was bunk. it was never in the dsm. it was never accepted science. too bad copeganda doesn't care about facts. as i said, this shit is so sold to American police officers to this day.
there's a great radiolab podcast from around December that talks to the survivors about it. you can go and listen to their side of the story if you want. they were terrified of the attacker the entire time and the police just kept making things worse for them.
Lists of the most dangerous jobs put Police Officers somewhere in the high teens. Some lists don't even have them in the top 20. People who think that a cop's job is so dangerous, forget that they carry a gun, taser, and asp at all times, and have an addition arsenal in the trunk. Cops are safer than kids in public school.
Ive had 2 jobs in the top 5, way more dangerous than any cop, and I've never gone around demanding respect because my job was so dangerous.
And the 'roids.
Pigs. Loyal to subjugating those poorer than them. Only capable of punching down.
...this just adds to the anxiety already running rampant in some spectrum people that if they need help, they will be shot instead of assisted...
But did they first scream, "He's coming right for us!"?
"STOP RESISTING!"
Opened fire from behind a chain link fence. ACAB
Fucking cops are so incompetent that they plugged him nine times, and still didnt kill him. I'm picturing them crouching and cowering behind their cars, and just lifting up their gun over the hood and mag-dumping in the general direction with their eyes closed.
Dickheads can't even be incompetent correctly.
That article got pulled quick.
I fixed the link.
ACAB
nine fucking bullets...jesus christ.
As the father of a 12 year old autistic boy this world scares me. I'm not going to be damning of the police, many of you have already done this. I will be damning of our society pushing these kids to the fringe at the benefit of no one. More often than not programs for autistic children involve other autistic children which is not what we need. We need neurotypical children having more sustained interactions with autistic children and neurotypical adults with more sustained interactions with autistic adults.
I will argue (probably successfully) that 99% of neurotypical people that engage with autistic people is because they're related to them or they're paid to interact with them. That is a problem.
We are not solving the problem.
All coppers are cunts
To serve and protect, if you are in the correct tax bracket.
Cops are pretty cowardly, most of them love killing people if they can get away with it because they have no soul.
Article got removed ?
Not sure what happened. I've updated the link now.
There's a bug where edited link posts don't propagate to Mbin, so for any other Mbinners, the new link is https://apnews.com/article/idaho-police-autism-shooting-teen-d9eef615233c7e95d4fa3ee8a627f7d2
that’s just what police do.