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[โ€“] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh I was listening to Alan Cross talk about this earlier in the week.

Basically material conditions for Zoomers (and likely everyone who comes after) are rapidly deteriorating and when that happens, music tends to get darker. Consider the Oil Crisis of the 70's, which gave us punk rock. When it all settled down around 77, we got disco. The recession of the early 90s, along with the Gulf War, spurred the rise of grunge. But when we believed that was over (say around '96?) the focus turns away from angry young white men with guitars and toward feel-good pop like the Spice Girls.

Spotify did a lot to disrupt these kinds of cycles, but they're not immune to them. During the mid 2010's, when we should have seen a return to big, loud, guitar-based music, we got a rise in folky indie stuff. But it was folky indie stuff that addressed those feelings. We want music that addresses our emotions but the ways we go about addressing our emotions require less volume these days. I suspect this has something to do with either men getting better at expressing themselves or fewer young people identifying as male?

[โ€“] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's the jack antonoff style cathartic whisper production style that's en vogue right now, because music is centered mainly around creating content for a vibe and there's not a better format for that than vaguely hauntological vaguely moody music. I don't even know if music is necessarily even sadder, just that the creation process is more centered around spontaneity in chord progressions that work around subdominant function more, probably because we are so used to dominant resolutions it makes us want to blow our brains out.

Also there's no core to anything that's new anymore. It's been the end of history for 30 years and you can only cope (with misery and anger in the 90s, consumerism in the 00s, and nihilism in the 10s) for so long til you get tired of it.

[โ€“] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure Spotify/Creating music for vibes has some kind of synthesis but I haven't had the caffeine for that yet.

Moreover, I think the shifts in music that we're seeing owe more to people not being able to afford guitars or the space necessary to practice

[โ€“] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Mhm also labels no longer developing talent too for sure

[โ€“] eight@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What came first, the music or the misery?

[โ€“] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this dude wasn't bleeding liberal brain out of his nose and eye sockets he could have a chance at making a point