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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just refuse them at the border. Problem solved.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.

I agree that they should stay away, especially when asked to stay away by the government, but its not so straight forward

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not an option, based on the agreement made between Denmark and USA in 1951.

Yes it is. In reading the 1951 agreement it is specifically aimed at the following ...

armed forces of the parties to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization may make use of facilities in Greenland in defense of Greenland and the rest of the North Atlantic Treaty area Source

DJ Vance, Usha Vance, the vice president's wife, White House National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and Energy Secretary Chris Wright will visit, but none of them are current military members.

It would seem they can be refused according to your reference point.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

In keeping with the provisions of Article VI of this Agreement, and in accordance with general rules mutually agreed upon and issued by the appropriate Danish authority in Greenland, the Government of the United States of America may enjoy, for its public vessels and aircraft and its armed forces and vehicles, the right of free access to and movement between the defense areas through Greenland, including territorial waters, by land, air and sea. This right shall include freedom from compulsory pilotage and from light or harbor dues. United States aircraft may fly over and land in any territory in Greenland, including the territorial waters thereof, without restriction except as mutually agreed upon.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They can refuse any meetings in Greenland they try to hold though.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Yes definitely. There will be no official contact between them. Also a lot of police has been brought in from Denmark for this

Silent protests are planned. They will be turning their backs to the convoys when they drive past them

[–] tal@lemmy.today 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

My understanding is that buying Greenland has been a long-standing Trump goal. I watched an interview with John Bolton where he was talking about how Trump kept bringing it up during Trump's first term. And it's something that a few past US administrations have made efforts toward as well.

Problem is, as Bolton also pointed out, Trump is doing a really effective job of undermining any effort to do so by being abrasive as all hell. Greenland's a democracy. Denmark's a democracy. You can't go piss everyone off and then have any chance of making such a purchase. Not how things work.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

No means no.. but rapists don't understand this

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

"Buy" Trump doesn't pay his debts he will not be buying the country if he is for real. He will take it by force.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Greenland can refuse them entry.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure? Greenland and USA have had a very special agreement since 1951. I am not sure that this is the case.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

50,000 people live in Greenland. I mean it literally when I say I don't believe they can.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Canadians can be refused entry to America based on the border guards not believing what we say about anything.

Every nation/group of nations (ie: the EU) has border guards who can refuse non-citzens entry, so ofc they can.

But rn it's a game of chess. Is Greenland willing to pay the cost of refusal, because knowing who and what Trump is means the cost could be huge.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Usa was granted free access to greenmal in 1951 and were allowed to build military bases without even telling Denmark what they are up to. It is more complicated than just closing the door on them

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Not according to what is written in the agreement.

Maybe you haven't read it all yet, like the part where it says the agreement is for NATO-member nations' armed forces are allowed to use the land and buildings as they see fit. Nowhere does it state that politicians or just regular Americans can visit at will.

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Agreement_relating_to_the_Defense_of_Greenland

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Well the news today are that the visit will now only be in the USA military bases and that they will not attend a planned visit to some dog race that they had originally planned.

From what I know of other USA military bases, they are more or less considered USA territory. In any way though, the visit will now be contained within the military bases

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Simply deny them each and any official contact. Then they will have to pay the trip out of their own pocket.