Let's see...
- Nazism
- McCarthyism
- Vietnam War
- Racial Injustice
- South African Apartheid
- Occupy Wall Street
- Gaza Genocide
- etc.
I am curious. Has there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN'T unequivocally vindicated by history?
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Closest I can come with is nuclear disarmament. Not because I think they were on the wrong side of it, but I think it's far less clear cut and there's a credible argument that MAD has worked.
We can't really prove that MAD has worked without seeing what would have happened if we hadn't done MAD.
I'd argue that without MAD, the cold war might not have happened, which could have avoided a massive number of conflicts.
there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN'T unequivocally vindicated by history?
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National Socialist German Student League were literal Nazis
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The Red Guards were a Student-led paramilitary group.
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Japanese Students protested against the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty (Anpo)
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Veganism?
The key word is "widescale". The reason is that a malignant narcissist can get a small group of cultists to do anything. But in order to get a large group of cultists to do something, he needs a propaganda machine like fox News and they have a much older demographic
I think the examples I gave were wide-scale for their time in history.
But I don't really want to argue against OPs point. The intelligent, not yet indoctrinated, youth are usually on the right side of history.
I completely agree with you. There might be some exceptions but in general what you say is true: when there's a sea change, a zeigeist, young people are the first to sense it. You don't get sweeping changes and protests at the senior care facility.
I think it's also that the young have less to lose and more to gain. Most gen Xer are sitting around on their hands because they stand to lose much more than they gain. They have mortgage and car payments, children, and health insurance. If anything breaks, that can all come tumbling down.
- Veganism?
Hold up, you think the vegans are in the wrong? You can say that they're annoying, but in terms of ethics and morals it's not even an argument. It's fine to not like tofu or whatever, but there is no amount of verbal gymnastics anyone can do to even begin to justify the modern meat and dairy industries. That shit is basically Animal Auschwitz times a billion.
it's possible that the modern industry is bad and vegans are still wrong
I mainly put that in to see what reaction it would get.
For arguments sake, there is a militant strain of veganism (e.g. PETA) that is not always on the right side of history. But the damage done there is tiny compared to the other side of the scale.
Given enough time, we were always going to have right wing authoritarians back in power.
But call me an idealist, I didn't think it would be actual Nazi sympathizers. Thought the brand was appropriately tarnished what with the Holocaust.
The US always had right wing authoritarians in power. They just prefered to slaughter people abroad.
Cherry picking history is what US excels at. So, they're always the good guys. Always…
There'll probably be some footnotes about their heinous history just so they can point and say they're not hiding anything. But the way they control almost all major social media companies and mainstream media. They get to play god with what sticks and what doesn't.
Didn’t the USA join a war against some Nazis?
So I'm not so sure this is actually a Science Meme other than proving that sometimes history does repeat itself?
I was skeptical that this was actually real, but it is indeed on the NYT website and the image was taken from their "Timeline view"
Yes, yes, every piece slowly falls into place. *Cue maniacal villain laughter
It's like they actually studied history, to try and replicate the desired results as identically as possible. Or they didn't, at all, and this is just 2+2=4 scenario but with history.
The more things change…
Is this a science meme? Am I on Reddit?
You are on sciencememes, and this is a meme about academia?
Academia = Science ?
My dude, it's right there in the description
A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.
Honestly, I have no idea what you are trying to argue
How does the post have anything to do with what you just quoted from the community rules?
I am trying to say the post has nothing to do with science.
And? Seems like your definition and this community's definition of "science memes" differ. Who cares. What are we even arguing about?