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[–] Horrabin@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

This sounds like socialism is good for capitalists

[–] weremacaque@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good. If I ever published anything, I would absolutely not want it to be pirated by AI so some asshole can plagiarize it later down the line and not even cite their sources.

[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Corporations trying to profit by closing off vast tracts of human output are bumping into other corporations trying to mine it for profit.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Alright, I confess! Almost all of my training in computer programming came from copyrighted material. Put the cuffs on me!

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[–] magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.com 5 points 4 months ago

I'll take him seriously if & when OpenAI lives up to its name.

[–] momodocho@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago
[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

My main takeaway is that some contrived notion of "national security" has now become an acceptable justification for business decisions in the US.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago
[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think they’re wrong in saying that if they aren’t allowed to train on copyrighted works then they will fall behind. Maybe I missed it in the article, but Japan for example has that exact law (use of copyright to train generative AI is allowed).

Personally I think we need to give them somewhat of an out by letting them do it but then taxing the fuck out of the resulting product. “You can use copyrighted works for training but then 50% of your profits are taxed”. Basically a recognition that the sum of all copyrighted works is a societal good and not just an individual copyright holders.

https://jackson.dev/post/generative-ai-and-copyright/

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, taxes implies a monopoly on the training data. The government profits. The rights holders get nothing back.

If private data is deemed public for AI training then the results of that training (code+weights+source list) should also be deemed public.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

He's right tho. China don't care. You think the west will be able to outcompete China with such limitations?

And the end result is the same, no one was compensated and a dictatorship is running one of the most important new IT tools.

[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Sounds good, fuck em

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 4 points 4 months ago (14 children)

To be fair, they’re not wrong. We need to find a legal comprise that satisfies everyone

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

But how will corporations like Disney survive without copywrites?! Won't someone think about the poor corporations?!

/s

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Then perish, OpenAI. If your only innovation is a legal loophole then you did nothing.

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