Technology

If training an ai on copyrighted material is fair use, then piracy is archiving

Good.

Fuck Sam Altman's greed. Pay the fucking artists you're robbing.

Sounds like another way of saying "there actually isn't a profitable business in this."

But since we live in crazy world, once he gets his exemption to copyright laws for AI, someone needs to come up with a good self hosted AI toolset that makes it legal for the average person to pirate stuff at scale as well.

I have conflicting feelings about this whole thing. If you are selling the result of training like OpenAI does (and every other company), then I feel like it’s absolutely and clearly not fair use. It’s just theft with extra steps.

On the other hand, what about open source projects and individuals who aren’t selling or competing with the owners of the training material? I feel like that would be fair use.

What keeps me up at night is if training is never fair use, then the natural result is that AI becomes monopolized by big companies with deep pockets who can pay for an infinite amount of random content licensing, and then we are all forever at their mercy for this entire branch of technology.

The practical, socioeconomic, and ethical considerations are really complex, but all I ever see discussed are these hard-line binary stances that would only have awful corporate-empowering consequences, either because they can steal content freely or because they are the only ones that will have the resources to control the technology.

Good, end this AI bullshit, it has little upsides and a metric fuckton of downsides for the common man

If everyone can 'train' themselves on copyrighted works, then I say "fair game.''

Otherwise, get fucked.

No amigo, it's not fair if you're profiting from it in the long run.

What if we had taken the billions of dollars invested in AI and invested that into public education instead?

Imagine the return on investment of the information being used to train actual humans who can reason and don’t lie 60% of the time instead of using it to train a computer that is useless more than it is useful.

Then let it be over then.

So Deepmind is good to train on your models then right?

For Sam:

If AI gets to use copyrighted material for free and makes a profit off of the results, that means piracy is 1000% Legal. Excuse me while I go and download a car!!

Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest!

What is the charge, officer? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?

Good. Fuck AI

If your business model only works if you break the Law, that mean's you're just another Organised Crime group.

But if you stop me from criming, how will I get better at crime!?!

I hope generative AI obliterates copyright. I hope that its destruction is so thorough that we either forget it ever existed or we talk about it in disgust as something that only existed in stupider times.

Oops, oh well. I very much hope it's over, asshole.

Suddenly millions of people are downloading to "train their AI models".

Good riddance. This version of AI is just a glorified search engine anyways

Technofascism on its way to legalize my 30TB trove of backups

Fuck OpenAI for stealing the hard work of millions of people

"How am I supposed to make any money if I can't steal all of my products to sell back to the world that produced them?"

Yeah, fuck that. The whole industry deserves to die.

How many pages has a human author read and written before they can produce something worth publishing? I’m pretty sure that’s not even a million pages. Why does an AI require a gazillion pages to learn, but the quality is still unimpressive? I think there’s something fundamentally wrong with the way we teach these models.

Vote pirate party.

Okay.

It was fun while it lasted.

For someone.

I presume.

If I'm using "AI" to generate subtitles for the "community" is ok if i have a large "datastore" of "licensable media" stored locally to work off of right?