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TNG s6e7 "Rascals"

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 91 points 1 year ago

"We haven't lost everything Miles, you can still work engineering miracles, and I can still criticize you for not being home often enough."

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Molly is like "I can't take their shit anymore"

[–] Newsteinleo 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here's my question, why was the malfunction not replicated and monitized by the Ferangi as a beauty produced? "Look 10 years younger because you will be 10 years younger"

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or when they de aged Pulaski to her "proper" age, they could have just gone a few years younger.

Or when they are aged the people in this episode, maybe only age them into their early 20s.

The transporters open up all sorts of scenarios that they clearly show as possible, but no one ever uses it that way on purpose somehow...

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's been a while since I saw that episode but weren't they only able to do that because they had her most recent pattern stored in the buffer or something like that?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, but they screw with things in transport all the time.

There's an infection? Omit it on the beam up. There's a weapon discharging? Disable it. Have a hard time beaming someone up? Beam them up twice and if one copy bounces back to the planet... Oh well. I seem to recall an instance of them doing surgery while in the pattern buffer too, which makes you wonder why they don't just use the transporter buffer to do all medical treatment. If you are beaming up a critically injured person, don't beam them directly to sick bay, just tweak them in the buffer.

Also, what all does the "pattern" contain? After someone has been "restored from backup" in these incidents, they always seem to retain the memory of how they were after the mess up. So clearly they keep their memories as they get merged/tweaked back to the pattern on file.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of that's the case, you could store the pattern for whatever age you want and always return to it in the future. I don't really see that as an issue to the concept. Just more of a hassle, and obviously you can't return to before you decided to start storing that.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Since they evidently keep info about people in transport as a matter of course (they used it a lot in TNG to make a point about someone's medical condition), you'd think they would just restore you to healthy body instead of beaming directly to sickbay too..

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to believe there are strict ethical laws in far future that are actually enforced, and built into the hardware. Like maybe an ethical local AI

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But like everyone has the technology. I'm highly skeptical Ferengi would stand in the way of de-aging out of an ethical concern.

[–] Newsteinleo 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ferengi... Ethic... Don't make me laugh. To late roflmao

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I like to believe there are strict ethical laws in far future that are actually enforced, and built into the hardware.

Presumably only powerful people and Section 31 are allowed to use transporters to stay eternally young....heh.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Could have used that info a bit earlier.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

They could literally sell it as immortality elixir, "Look and feel young forever!"

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the innumerable examples of sci fi tech not being used as it would IRL. It's centuries in the future and they still steer the ship and fire the weapons manually.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the best quote out of context:

I mean, of course you're my wife. But you're also ten years old.

[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's nuts over her.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Wife: Would you still love me if I am de-aged accidentally by transporter?

Me: ........

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Considering transporters are like 200-year-old technology by that point they fail a surprising amount of times.

Can you imagine if cars occasionally transported you to alternate dimensions, would we all just be fine with it? ""

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people in cars get yeeted into non-existence, at least the alternate dimensions have cool moustaches.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where is Craig he's late for work?

Craig texted to say he is at work and everyone's evil except the HR lady, so he thinks he might be in the mirror universe

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wacky stuff like that seemingly has been normalized over the years.

But the failure rate of transporters is probably low. With all the dangers of driving (accidents, weather, mechanical failures, etc) people still seem to have no issues driving

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

In fact driving is the single most dangerous thing many people do in their whole lives, and they do it every day...

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering aeroplanes are like 100-year-old technology by this point they fail a surprising amount of times.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC they even call transporters "the safest way to travel" at one point.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

That's also true of airplanes.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Cars are kinda terrible. More than 1 million people die every year from car accidents. That's ignoring deaths from pollution.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean cars do occasionally just burst into flames

[–] OnASnowyEvening@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, we don't usually see a Day in the Life of a Normally Functioning Transporter. It'd make for a pretty boring episode. It's kind of like "Well, where ARE the bathrooms on the ship? What do they look like? How do they work? Do they also use the three seashells?" I mean, getting an answer might be mildly interesting, but really... do we need to see the space toilet? They only kind of got value out of complaining about a lack of showers on Voyager.

Transporters are perfectly safe, and we just see those ultra rare times when they aren't.

No, what you should really worry about is whether it's you that arrives on the other end of that transporter or not. Is there a soul? Does it survive? What is actually transmitted down to the planet? What makes you you, basically? Some people find that line of thought the stuff of nightmares.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would be fine with that.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"How do you like your coffee?"

"Hot and black. Like my men."

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh that was definitly my pick for weirdest and most awkward episode

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even worse than the planet of awful African stereotypes?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Right? People complain about “Spock’s brain”, while this is staring them in their eyes.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck, that's a tough one. At least that one has Lieutenant Yar. I love her. Underrated character. In general that one is probably worse though. The sexy planet one was pretty bad too.

[–] xye@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Sometimes relationships do be like this though.

[–] Ydna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Basically the reality show "Shauna Rae" with the misadventures of dating a 23 year old trapped in the body of an 8 year old 🤨🤨

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That episode was about a transporter mishap that turned Keiko, Ro and Guinan physically into 12-year-olds but mentally they were still adults. At the time I thought it was pretty lame to make anything "pedo" out of that situation. Keiko was an adult woman, married to O'Brien, presumably having a normal amount of sex, and suddenly she has a lot smaller body. How the two of them coped with this in their relationship was between them IMO. But people sure did go to town on it. One writer called him PedO'Brien, also calling a scene "particularly cringe-worthy" where Guinan and Ro decided to embrace their inner child and jump up and down on a bed. I dunno what's wrong with people.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a Stargate SG-1 episode where Jack O'Neill got regressed back to a 14 year old (actually he was cloned by an rouge Asguard) and eventually they released him into a public high school with all his adult memories intact. A bit problematic, now that he's an adult man in a child's body presumably banging other teenagers.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Weird that they would invalidate his existing high school diploma.

Another weird one is when writers think it makes sense for vampires who are hundreds of years old to spend their days in high school because they have teenage bodies. And they're immortal so presumably they are doomed to spend eternity in high school. What kind of hellish fate is that?